* [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
@ 2016-09-09 4:50 waltdnes
2016-09-09 15:17 ` Daniel Frey
2016-09-12 2:49 ` [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] " waltdnes
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: waltdnes @ 2016-09-09 4:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo Users List
64-bit no-multilib install on a relatively new Dell Inspiron...
1) X works OK, but installing x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel finishes off
with the message...
***********************************************
WARN: postinst
This driver requires KMS support in your kernel
Device Drivers --->
Graphics support --->
Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --->
<*> Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) --->
i915 driver
[*] Enable modesetting on intel by default
***********************************************
Note that make.conf contains...
VIDEO_CARDS="intel i965"
...and X loads the i965 driver, and runs OK. Why is i915 even mentioned?
2) "uname -a" gives the following output...
[i3][root][~] uname -a
Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #4 SMP Wed Sep 7 17:12:27 Local time zone must be set--see zic m x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
...but I've already run...
[i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
Configuring pkg...
* Updating /etc/localtime with /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
3) The new machine is not co-operating with my hardware KVM switch. If
I select the machine while it's booting up, it works fine. But if I
switch away and come back, the VGA video does not work. I've confirmed
that the keyboard part of KVM still works...
* boot up with new machine selected
* log in as root in text console mode
* switch away
* switch back, and there's no video
* but if I blindly type "poweroff", it shuts down, so keyboard works
Ugly hack... The new machine has VGA and HDMI ports. My monitor has
VGA (which the KVM switch uses) and HDMI (and DVI and Displayport?). I
can add one more cable to the "rat's nest" under the table. But
switching between machines will also require toggling the monitor as
well as the KVM.
4) media-libs/x265 took 68 minutes to build on a relatively new 4-core
Intel Silvermont with 8 gigs of RAM, and X was not running! Time output
real 68m48.122s
user 87m52.139s
sys 0m25.027s
It got stuck at a few times building "deblock"...
[ 98%] Building CXX object common/CMakeFiles/common.dir/deblock.cpp.o cd /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source-abi_x86_64.amd64-main10/common && /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DEXPORT_C_API=0 -DHAVE_INT_TYPES_H=1 -DHIGH_BIT_DEPTH=1 -DX265_ARCH_X86=1 -DX265_DEPTH=10 -DX265_NS=x265_10bit -DX86_64=1 -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS=1 -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/. -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/common -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/encoder -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source-abi_x86_64.amd64-main10 -DNDEBUG -O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -Wall -Wextra -Wshadow -fPIC -Wno-array-bounds -ffast-math -mstackrealign -fno-exceptions -o CMakeFiles/common.dir/deblock.cpp.o -c /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/common/deblock.cpp
When I say "stuck", I mean that "top" shows yasm pegging one core at 100%
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
3520 portage 20 0 178920 171848 2032 R 100.0 2.1 24:48.70 yasm
3749 waltdnes 20 0 21808 2824 2340 R 0.7 0.0 0:03.54 top
1 root 20 0 4188 1564 1460 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-09 4:50 [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?) waltdnes
@ 2016-09-09 15:17 ` Daniel Frey
2016-09-09 15:25 ` Daniel Frey
2016-09-10 1:20 ` waltdnes
2016-09-12 2:49 ` [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] " waltdnes
1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Frey @ 2016-09-09 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 09/08/2016 09:50 PM, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> 64-bit no-multilib install on a relatively new Dell Inspiron...
>
> 1) X works OK, but installing x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel finishes off
> with the message...
>
> ***********************************************
> WARN: postinst
> This driver requires KMS support in your kernel
> Device Drivers --->
> Graphics support --->
> Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --->
> <*> Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) --->
> i915 driver
> [*] Enable modesetting on intel by default
> ***********************************************
>
> Note that make.conf contains...
> VIDEO_CARDS="intel i965"
> ...and X loads the i965 driver, and runs OK. Why is i915 even mentioned?
You have built the Intel driver in the kernel correct? It is telling you
you didn't build KMS support in your kernel and showing you what needs
to be set in your kernel.
This will probably correct your problem #3, by the way.
>
>
> 2) "uname -a" gives the following output...
>
> [i3][root][~] uname -a
> Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #4 SMP Wed Sep 7 17:12:27 Local time zone must be set--see zic m x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>
>
> ...but I've already run...
>
> [i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
>
> Configuring pkg...
>
> * Updating /etc/localtime with /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
The new link is /etc/timezone, not /etc/localtime. I would think if you
renamed it that problem will go away?
>
> 3) The new machine is not co-operating with my hardware KVM switch. If
> I select the machine while it's booting up, it works fine. But if I
> switch away and come back, the VGA video does not work. I've confirmed
> that the keyboard part of KVM still works...
> * boot up with new machine selected
> * log in as root in text console mode
> * switch away
> * switch back, and there's no video
> * but if I blindly type "poweroff", it shuts down, so keyboard works
>
> Ugly hack... The new machine has VGA and HDMI ports. My monitor has
> VGA (which the KVM switch uses) and HDMI (and DVI and Displayport?). I
> can add one more cable to the "rat's nest" under the table. But
> switching between machines will also require toggling the monitor as
> well as the KVM.
Try building KMS support (and the Intel driver if you haven't) in the
kernel and report back.
>
> 4) media-libs/x265 took 68 minutes to build on a relatively new 4-core
> Intel Silvermont with 8 gigs of RAM, and X was not running! Time output
>
> real 68m48.122s
> user 87m52.139s
> sys 0m25.027s
>
> It got stuck at a few times building "deblock"...
>
> [ 98%] Building CXX object common/CMakeFiles/common.dir/deblock.cpp.o cd /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source-abi_x86_64.amd64-main10/common && /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DEXPORT_C_API=0 -DHAVE_INT_TYPES_H=1 -DHIGH_BIT_DEPTH=1 -DX265_ARCH_X86=1 -DX265_DEPTH=10 -DX265_NS=x265_10bit -DX86_64=1 -D__STDC_LIMIT_MACROS=1 -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/. -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/common -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/encoder -I/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source-abi_x86_64.amd64-main10 -DNDEBUG -O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -fPIC -Wall -Wextra -Wshadow -fPIC -Wno-array-bounds -ffast-math -mstackrealign -fno-exceptions -o CMakeFiles/common.dir/deblock.cpp.o -c /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/x265-1.8-r3/work/x265_11047/source/common/deblock.cpp
>
> When I say "stuck", I mean that "top" shows yasm pegging one core at 100%
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 3520 portage 20 0 178920 171848 2032 R 100.0 2.1 24:48.70 yasm
> 3749 waltdnes 20 0 21808 2824 2340 R 0.7 0.0 0:03.54 top
> 1 root 20 0 4188 1564 1460 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.37 init
> 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
>
>
I haven't tried compiling this one so I can't comment on it.
Dan
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-09 15:17 ` Daniel Frey
@ 2016-09-09 15:25 ` Daniel Frey
2016-09-10 5:45 ` J. Roeleveld
2016-09-10 1:20 ` waltdnes
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Frey @ 2016-09-09 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 09/09/2016 08:17 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
>> 2) "uname -a" gives the following output...
>>
>> [i3][root][~] uname -a
>> Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #4 SMP Wed Sep 7 17:12:27 Local time zone must be set--see zic m x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>>
>>
>> ...but I've already run...
>>
>> [i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
>>
>> Configuring pkg...
>>
>> * Updating /etc/localtime with /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
>
> The new link is /etc/timezone, not /etc/localtime. I would think if you
> renamed it that problem will go away?
Whoops, I replied a little too quickly on this one. I don't know why it
thinks it's not updated. Someone else may have an idea.
It is odd that it says it's updating. Have you checked to see that it is
symlinked properly?
Dan
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-09 15:17 ` Daniel Frey
2016-09-09 15:25 ` Daniel Frey
@ 2016-09-10 1:20 ` waltdnes
2016-09-10 2:18 ` Adam Carter
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: waltdnes @ 2016-09-10 1:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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1 down, 1 to go. Apparently, I needed to rebuild the kernel after
redoing the timezone initialization. I did...
[i3][root][~] rm -rf /etc/timezone /etc/localtime
[i3][root][~] echo "Canada/Eastern" > /etc/timezone
[i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
...and rebuilt the kernel, attempting to fix the video. Now I get...
[i3][root][~] uname -a
Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #5 SMP Sat Sep 10 00:48:23 UTC 2016 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 08:17:35AM -0700, Daniel Frey wrote
> On 09/08/2016 09:50 PM, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> > 64-bit no-multilib install on a relatively new Dell Inspiron...
> >
> > 1) X works OK, but installing x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel finishes off
> > with the message...
> >
> > ***********************************************
> > WARN: postinst
> > This driver requires KMS support in your kernel
> > Device Drivers --->
> > Graphics support --->
> > Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --->
> > <*> Intel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G (i915 driver) --->
> > i915 driver
> > [*] Enable modesetting on intel by default
> > ***********************************************
>
> You have built the Intel driver in the kernel correct? It is telling you
> you didn't build KMS support in your kernel and showing you what needs
> to be set in your kernel.
I don't get those options. Here's what I see (kernel 4.4.6-gentoo).
Device Drivers --->
Graphics support --->
<*> Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) --->
--- Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)
[*] Enable legacy fbdev support for your modesetting driver
...and also...
<*> Intel 8xx/9xx/G3x/G4x/HD Graphics
<*> DRM Support for bochs dispi vga interface (qemu stdvga)
Something has changed. I did some minor tweaking, and rebuilt, which
solved the timezonDo I need another magic setting somewhere else
to enable the options it asks for? I'm attaching the Xorg log (gzipped)
in case it helps.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-10 1:20 ` waltdnes
@ 2016-09-10 2:18 ` Adam Carter
2016-09-10 7:11 ` waltdnes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Adam Carter @ 2016-09-10 2:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
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> Device Drivers --->
> Graphics support --->
> <*> Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)
> --->
> --- Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support)
> [*] Enable legacy fbdev support for your modesetting driver
> ...and also...
> <*> Intel 8xx/9xx/G3x/G4x/HD Graphics
> <*> DRM Support for bochs dispi vga interface (qemu stdvga)
>
> Something has changed. I did some minor tweaking, and rebuilt, which
> solved the timezonDo I need another magic setting somewhere else
> to enable the options it asks for? I'm attaching the Xorg log (gzipped)
> in case it helps.
>
I just tried uninstalling xf86-video-vesa and xf86-video-fbdev to see if
they were required, and X still runs, so you can ignore those messages.
FWIW i'm kernel 4.7.2 with ~amd64 on a skylake i3.
You dont appear to have evdev setup;
-> Device Drivers
-> Input device support
-> Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...)
and emerge xf86-input-evdev
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-09 15:25 ` Daniel Frey
@ 2016-09-10 5:45 ` J. Roeleveld
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2016-09-10 5:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On September 9, 2016 5:25:13 PM GMT+02:00, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 09/09/2016 08:17 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
>>> 2) "uname -a" gives the following output...
>>>
>>> [i3][root][~] uname -a
>>> Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #4 SMP Wed Sep 7 17:12:27 Local time zone must
>be set--see zic m x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz
>GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>>>
>>>
>>> ...but I've already run...
>>>
>>> [i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
>>>
>>> Configuring pkg...
>>>
>>> * Updating /etc/localtime with /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
>>
>> The new link is /etc/timezone, not /etc/localtime. I would think if
>you
>> renamed it that problem will go away?
>
>Whoops, I replied a little too quickly on this one. I don't know why it
>thinks it's not updated. Someone else may have an idea.
>
>It is odd that it says it's updating. Have you checked to see that it
>is
>symlinked properly?
>
>Dan
Try rebuilding the kernel after setting it.
--
Joost
--
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-10 2:18 ` Adam Carter
@ 2016-09-10 7:11 ` waltdnes
2016-09-10 8:03 ` Adam Carter
2016-09-10 8:06 ` J. Roeleveld
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: waltdnes @ 2016-09-10 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:18:51PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote
> I just tried uninstalling xf86-video-vesa and xf86-video-fbdev to see if
> they were required, and X still runs, so you can ignore those messages.
>
> FWIW i'm kernel 4.7.2 with ~amd64 on a skylake i3.
>
> You dont appear to have evdev setup;
> -> Device Drivers
> -> Input device support
> -> Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...)
>
> and emerge xf86-input-evdev
?!?! I've never had evdev installed. Why now? Mouse and keyboard
work OK.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-10 7:11 ` waltdnes
@ 2016-09-10 8:03 ` Adam Carter
2016-09-10 8:06 ` J. Roeleveld
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Adam Carter @ 2016-09-10 8:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
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>
> ?!?! I've never had evdev installed. Why now? Mouse and keyboard
> work OK.
>
I thought evdev was the contemporary way of doing things (its in the gentoo
guides), but after a bit of reading it seems more complicated than that.
Ignore my post.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-10 7:11 ` waltdnes
2016-09-10 8:03 ` Adam Carter
@ 2016-09-10 8:06 ` J. Roeleveld
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2016-09-10 8:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On September 10, 2016 9:11:59 AM GMT+02:00, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
>On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 12:18:51PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote
>
>> I just tried uninstalling xf86-video-vesa and xf86-video-fbdev to see
>if
>> they were required, and X still runs, so you can ignore those
>messages.
>>
>> FWIW i'm kernel 4.7.2 with ~amd64 on a skylake i3.
>>
>> You dont appear to have evdev setup;
>> -> Device Drivers
>> -> Input device support
>> -> Generic input layer (needed for keyboard, mouse, ...)
>>
>> and emerge xf86-input-evdev
>
> ?!?! I've never had evdev installed. Why now? Mouse and keyboard
>work OK.
Evdev helps with swapping mice and keyboards. IOW, when using laptops.
And I think it's the 'preferred' way of doing things these days?
Then again, if you're not having problems with mice and keyboards, I don't see how evdev will 'solve' a non existent problem.
--
Joost
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* [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] New install, a few problems (or not?)
2016-09-09 4:50 [gentoo-user] New install, a few problems (or not?) waltdnes
2016-09-09 15:17 ` Daniel Frey
@ 2016-09-12 2:49 ` waltdnes
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: waltdnes @ 2016-09-12 2:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo Users List
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 12:50:09AM -0400, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote
> 2) "uname -a" gives the following output...
>
> [i3][root][~] uname -a
> Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #4 SMP Wed Sep 7 17:12:27 Local time zone must be set--see zic m x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
>
>
> ...but I've already run...
>
> [i3][root][~] emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
>
> Configuring pkg...
>
> * Updating /etc/localtime with /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Eastern
Solved; I had to do the above *AND THEN REBUILD MY KERNEL* which
results in...
Linux i3 4.4.6-gentoo #5 SMP Sat Sep 10 00:48:23 UTC 2016 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N3700 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
> 3) The new machine is not co-operating with my hardware KVM switch. If
> I select the machine while it's booting up, it works fine. But if I
> switch away and come back, the VGA video does not work. I've confirmed
> that the keyboard part of KVM still works...
> * boot up with new machine selected
> * log in as root in text console mode
> * switch away
> * switch back, and there's no video
> * but if I blindly type "poweroff", it shuts down, so keyboard works
This is going to sound like "One weird little tip", but it works...
* boot up with new machine selected
* start up X
* run "xrandr" *WITHOUT ANY PARAMETERS*. I put it in my ~/.xinitrc so
that it runs automatically with each invocation of X. Here it is...
#!/bin/bash
xset fp+ /usr/share/fonts/misc && xset fp rehash
/usr/bin/xterm -e xrandr -s 1920x1080 && xrandr --dpi 96 && sleep 10 && xrandr &
[[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
/usr/bin/xterm -bg black -fg cyan -geometry 50x9+0+0 -fn lucidasanstypewriter-12 &
/usr/bin/xterm -bg black -fg cyan -geometry +0+0 -fn lucidasanstypewriter-12 &
exec /usr/bin/icewm > ~/.icewm.log 2>&1
xset dpms 240 256 260
xsetleds +num -caps -scroll
After this I can switch back, and I get back to the X session on the
new machine. Notes...
* "xrandr" only has to be run once. After this, I can switch back and
forth multiple times at will
* the ability to switch properly via my hardware KVM survives through
dpms kicking in screensaver mode
* it does *NOT* survive reboots or stopping and re-starting X
I assume that plain "xrandr" without any parameters does some
port-probing that sets up the video card. It's the only explanation I
can think of.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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