From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD89F13832E for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D701C21C096; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D145E0A84 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([79.223.101.137]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LpsmR-1atUnl0d43-00fhRJ for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:08:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:08:24 +0200 From: Meino.Cramer@gmx.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] "X11 forwarding" so to say ... but for audio Message-ID: <20160719160824.GB8789@solfire> References: <20160718051639.GA4834@solfire> <20160719050824.GB4628@solfire> <20160719084915.7925ac36@digimed.co.uk> <3bdd7e9d-e947-a4a1-1f11-50d24a91e1da@gmail.com> <20160719131714.23564621@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20160719143724.GA8789@solfire> <3712958e-b7d6-e880-affb-951ea21c827f@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3712958e-b7d6-e880-affb-951ea21c827f@gmail.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (Linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eBF0QvbXjCFBEfONTRv8nXdchFCpDJWw4mGjgl4xFJz5iPJ2Ihr /1ZrJezNYe3z31Fig/KTN0J3DOoCHIHrhyZN+d5Cy9ekG3oCunfwqtR3M68xcgUkBGZr9+E NnpBP/MfTFOxIkRasPQQLRzOs/7NSpn6tMgWazdbfyKcVS31kpdyMtoIcHr22Ud2oCYglNU dlFX8UzGVTskKR/JJ3B9w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OXnDaU+zS1o=:8mYiBrNtQrfQJB7iV36Ad6 Qde7PPRRW+Dxcyux2EKGA+Xy+oT5OCvr3kSAVpRl5rGXoRc3i7kqIP3pXsXBOIyIDNupRBTvO pWfrp7/rJSQextXdj5dQnyU+GIVObbcd+urNWxXIRqqlUVQhVTU4h6Whew5bOQbP7aTtqgcws 4Mvuhb7VLQMwKoCPdf3ru+cNtfUeN+M8EXARrqe1JLKj6goYwEwXMGejN2ewFzBmCQGDyeSct WJjnVI/+YMNByfSaxXONEm2dIiPD8E6W15c9XtLzS+dwdYvfozwT024QUtlxy9/KAhirvSRlM 3P5r14MGqNVXapNjgMmCTYLdoSWaCh2rtORzkDTlIpRvTX3g4bLRz/Y3pujLs6Ex1mCW6Z09w ao/Mmqe7rX2IQP0wmnPaIYrdAY63i2pZB+OIAPGPfOvd6zIe2attsNETDmUH904f/TKPFr2eB phLdNaIy8gLC3GVNZlfhNWKeQKhvK98ysNrz9BRwaCErcRu3faizA5mC4rnyfOv3kzgEmotor 0oRmZD6D4DOQlRsO+6TS/A9IvZb8+yaIqlDHjIYa7JMwr8sZcqGaK+pPVhk4GJ5MDtDepJtI8 u1TQuH5FoypFMYmLlxugJx8OeOmcBv6nP7ODsIHBcHBT0FvxTvVmKm49P9lAOFHoYoDmEXkbL ugZ3RTPir5PLlf7NpF1LhB9kO2a1Wd6p3LGQBWNHFxR9qAFMpreBn+LIAvvmRzgount2FrOwg MnLEoHXpUrS3oendQiBkFapQraenRlbRRGlk3WWMJiwenr5xTCBxymEq7mY= X-Archives-Salt: 048388be-6132-40b7-b6c6-eae3b5ef3683 X-Archives-Hash: 6d86836bc38237e9a063a421a73fbb72 Fernando Rodriguez [16-07-19 17:44]: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 07/19/2016 10:37 AM, Meino.Cramer@gmx.de wrote: > > Fernando Rodriguez [16-07-19 16:24]: > > On 07/19/2016 08:17 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:21:33 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>> The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: > >>>>>>> client? ( x264? ( dec_av2 ) x265? ( dec_av2 ) ) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It means that if you have client you need x264 and x265 and those both > >>>>>> require dec_av2, which is the one you don't have set. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I thought it meant that if you have client AND (x264 OR x265) then you > >>>>> need dec_av2. client doesn't require x264 or x265 by itself. > >>>> > >>>> Doesn't that use || ? Anyway, he has client and x264, so dec_av2 is > >>>> needed. > >>>> > > > > No, || means "any of", see [1]. And I believe in that case portage will translate > > it to "any-of" or something like that. These are just nested conditionals. It can > > be confusing even for someone with programming background. I suppose portage > > could translate that into a more human friendly form but with many nesting levels > > it will get ugly any way you put it. > > > > And yes, dec_av2 is what he needs (unless he doesn't need x264 and x265 support). > > I was just clearing the point about the meaning of the message. > > > > [1] https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/ > > > >> > > > > Hi all-taht-are-helping-me :) > > > > ...I am currently facing more fundamental problems. Background: > > I run an Orange PI PC (Allwinner H3 quadcore, 1.2GHz), which has > > an HDMI connector, but this would mean an additional cable. Since > > the Orange PI PC cannot be powered via USB, currently there > > is a power cable and an ethernet cable around here (next is to > > replace the ethernet cable by a wlan connection, but first I need > > some sound...) > > > > The traditional ssh -X user@host and then starting a X-applications > > runs quite well and even monsters like open office are quite > > useable...until those applications with sound. > > > > I tried xpra and (with your help! THX! :) it is spitting warnings > > and is to slow even when using application, which do not create > > sound. > > > > I dont want pulseaudio. I tried that several times on my dekstop > > Linux PC and it screws up things for reasons unknown to me. I will > > not exclude the person in front of my monitor as one of the sources > > of those problems...but why to give it another chance. > > You're not alone. Sadly as you're finding out, that is the state of such > applications. PulseAudio being the most widely used will probably > be the easiest to setup and find answers when you run into trouble. > > On my laptops I disabled the pulseaudio use flag so none of my applications > is using it (except Bluez) but I keep it installed and running for bluetooth > audio. That way it cannot screw things up (except bluetooth audio but that > doesn't work without it anyways). Yours would be a similar use case. > > > Jack-net isnt available fon Armbian as server application (Armbian > > is running on the Orange PI PC). > > > > I dont like HDMI since it is a monitor thingy and does not integrate > > into the desktop well, since it is a physical switch. > > > > Any other chance to get X11 talking to me without any addtional cable? > > > > Best regards, > > Meino > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXjkieAAoJEPbOFX/5UlwcGxYP+QHFjWsyvZsuLJKaq0pQw/QD > WNGir7xp7XVpTr5T2Pjq2UecJPvjRlOB15NsUbonLiep6R7P1HD5mlq4BBbmAJv8 > P6/xKZZ2LGg2a5JZrk8BgDWijMQNO7Z2+xm3pR0jVsAqzKehWw1lcTxiEHgZqm33 > te84Uwd4YKKUFl1Vf/qih1XVHs26TRtX/j4FuTk/JQWW0fZorBoQAl+i9C8PKO9k > i8FNyQBv/3amgpPx1xxdQWhCrNF4ljdC7dXYbNHV5V2eMKxNO7YbOIxVdSVDaCt6 > ZyswWtTHYEktn+tgbu8Uv0fQ4KCJ36YgyOhkycEObanuV1QpfSrd5bWQ0Z8BG81m > yCKhA58z6YeMI8inW6cOFERXprFLy5VNAg4RN8jhePEHzrI6U3GVfA6uAb+CPR2u > Q65MDxq1X3YBrE8BW01OBhVdj/dS8PGBf7yA3inXkvplr2XibfGaBn7GghpBuVZL > ruWBRv+OiL7cU8tfaFezIhdE590pAXq+fWEiqZrmSfuwjUovPi+JhyXh7W5LbWMB > MinCChljYFw1G5ZnWDEd2WWF3ToCV4EDuSad+PtfHbOA89yp++TQIpysv5J9T0od > OcuRKSnZj6FUMGuCuJOSpdNoLJQvi+lRzZKQVD3teKtN9s2hq5xertIHGfYpZqPo > IbI8Xjm0Be5ptF8bLvwR > =9p0t > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Hi Fernando, thanks for your kind help! :) ok...I will give pulseaudio another try...(sigh) Before I start... If my memory serves me right...is it true, that X11 starts automagically pulseaudio , if it founds it? And if so: How can I prevent that? Next problem is: that armbian offers a LOT of pulseaudio related packages...any hint what I need to install as a minimalistic solution (this is an embedded device with far less resources and far less hoursepower...)? And: What do I need to install on my GENTOO PC? Thanks a lot in advance for any help! Best regards, Meino