[gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Peter Humphrey]

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Hello list,

I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It seems to
be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the first, the
peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad up-arrow; and
the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur in many other sites
too.

Does anyone know what I'm missing?

Google-chrome displays these pages properly.

$ emerge -pv firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  .... done!
[ebuild   R    ] www-client/firefox-38.8.0::gentoo  USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate 
gstreamer jemalloc3 jit startup-notification system-icu system-jpeg system-
libvpx system-sqlite -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -egl 
-gstreamer-0 -hardened -minimal (-neon) (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux) (-
system-cairo) {-test} -wifi" LINGUAS="en_GB -af -ar -as -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -
bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX 
-et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -
id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -
or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta 
-te -th -tr -uk -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

-- 
Rgds
Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/01/2016 08:38 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It seems to
> be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the first, the
> peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad up-arrow; and
> the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur in many other sites
> too.
> 
> Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> 
> Google-chrome displays these pages properly.
> 
> $ emerge -pv firefox
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies  .... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] www-client/firefox-38.8.0::gentoo  USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate 
> gstreamer jemalloc3 jit startup-notification system-icu system-jpeg system-
> libvpx system-sqlite -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -egl 
> -gstreamer-0 -hardened -minimal (-neon) (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux) (-
> system-cairo) {-test} -wifi" LINGUAS="en_GB -af -ar -as -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -
> bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_ZA -eo -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX 
> -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -
> id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -
> or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta 
> -te -th -tr -uk -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 

Do you have all the required fonts installed? If you look back a couple
months I had unreadable prints and distortion and it turned out to be a
font misconfiguration issue.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 08:46:35 Daniel Frey wrote:

> Do you have all the required fonts installed? If you look back a couple
> months I had unreadable prints and distortion and it turned out to be a
> font misconfiguration issue.

I can't go back that far locally, but these are the fonts I have:

# eselect fontconfig list
Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
  [1]   10-autohint.conf
  [2]   10-no-sub-pixel.conf
  [3]   10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf *
  [4]   10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
  [5]   10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
  [6]   10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
  [7]   10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
  [8]   10-unhinted.conf
  [9]   11-lcdfilter-default.conf
  [10]  11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
  [11]  11-lcdfilter-light.conf
  [12]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
  [13]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
  [14]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
  [15]  20-unhint-small-vera.conf *
  [16]  25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
  [17]  30-metric-aliases.conf *
  [18]  30-urw-aliases.conf *
  [19]  40-nonlatin.conf *
  [20]  45-latin.conf *
  [21]  49-sansserif.conf *
  [22]  50-user.conf *
  [23]  51-local.conf *
  [24]  57-dejavu-sans.conf *
  [25]  57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf *
  [26]  57-dejavu-serif.conf *
  [27]  60-latin.conf *
  [28]  60-liberation.conf
  [29]  65-fonts-persian.conf *
  [30]  65-khmer.conf
  [31]  65-nonlatin.conf *
  [32]  69-unifont.conf *
  [33]  70-no-bitmaps.conf *
  [34]  70-yes-bitmaps.conf *
  [35]  75-yes-terminus.conf *
  [36]  80-delicious.conf *
  [37]  90-synthetic.conf *
  [38]  99pdftoopvp.conf

But why should google-chrome display pages properly and firefox not?

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Daniel Frey]

On 06/01/2016 08:58 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 08:46:35 Daniel Frey wrote:
> 
>> Do you have all the required fonts installed? If you look back a couple
>> months I had unreadable prints and distortion and it turned out to be a
>> font misconfiguration issue.
> 
> I can't go back that far locally, but these are the fonts I have:
> 
> # eselect fontconfig list
> Available fontconfig .conf files (* is enabled):
>   [1]   10-autohint.conf
>   [2]   10-no-sub-pixel.conf
>   [3]   10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf *
>   [4]   10-sub-pixel-bgr.conf
>   [5]   10-sub-pixel-rgb.conf
>   [6]   10-sub-pixel-vbgr.conf
>   [7]   10-sub-pixel-vrgb.conf
>   [8]   10-unhinted.conf
>   [9]   11-lcdfilter-default.conf
>   [10]  11-lcdfilter-legacy.conf
>   [11]  11-lcdfilter-light.conf
>   [12]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans.conf
>   [13]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-sans-mono.conf
>   [14]  20-unhint-small-dejavu-serif.conf
>   [15]  20-unhint-small-vera.conf *
>   [16]  25-unhint-nonlatin.conf
>   [17]  30-metric-aliases.conf *
>   [18]  30-urw-aliases.conf *
>   [19]  40-nonlatin.conf *
>   [20]  45-latin.conf *
>   [21]  49-sansserif.conf *
>   [22]  50-user.conf *
>   [23]  51-local.conf *
>   [24]  57-dejavu-sans.conf *
>   [25]  57-dejavu-sans-mono.conf *
>   [26]  57-dejavu-serif.conf *
>   [27]  60-latin.conf *
>   [28]  60-liberation.conf
>   [29]  65-fonts-persian.conf *
>   [30]  65-khmer.conf
>   [31]  65-nonlatin.conf *
>   [32]  69-unifont.conf *
>   [33]  70-no-bitmaps.conf *
>   [34]  70-yes-bitmaps.conf *
>   [35]  75-yes-terminus.conf *
>   [36]  80-delicious.conf *
>   [37]  90-synthetic.conf *
>   [38]  99pdftoopvp.conf
> 
> But why should google-chrome display pages properly and firefox not?
> 

You might want to enable liberation-fonts.

When I was having the weird font issue, firefox was the only thing
affected. All other applications would work fine. I actually kept opera
around for sites that wouldn't display or print properly, but no longer
have to.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 04:38:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It seems to
> be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the first, the
> peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad up-arrow; and
> the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur in many other sites
> too.
> 
> Does anyone know what I'm missing?

Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
Sometimes the fingers are faster then grammar.

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 17:46:39 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 04:38:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It seems
> > to be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the
> > first, the peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad
> > up-arrow; and the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur in
> > many other sites too.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> 
> Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?

I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus. Disabling it 
makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to install YesScript, which 
also makes no difference.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 05:02:24PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 17:46:39 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 04:38:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It seems
> > > to be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the
> > > first, the peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad
> > > up-arrow; and the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur in
> > > many other sites too.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> > 
> > Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
> 
> I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus. Disabling it 
> makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to install YesScript, which 
> also makes no difference.

Have a look at the inspector (right-click the offending item, press q). I
don't know whether FX 38 already had that, it's so hard to keep track
noawadays with the ongoing version number inflation. On the right-hand side
of the inspector there should be a Fonts tab which should show you a preview
of the font being used.

Did you always have this problem or is it new with this version of Firefox?
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
If zero is very, very big, it is almost as much as a teensy one.

Re: [gentoo-user] Symbols missing from Firefox

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 18:13:10 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 05:02:24PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 17:46:39 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 04:38:17PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > Hello list,
> > > > 
> > > > I have quite a few sites that firefox doesn't display properly. It
> > > > seems
> > > > to be short of some symbols. I've attached two screen shots; in the
> > > > first, the peculiar thing next to the text should (I think) be a broad
> > > > up-arrow; and the second shows some buttons from twitter which occur
> > > > in
> > > > many other sites too.
> > > > 
> > > > Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> > > 
> > > Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
> > 
> > I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus. Disabling
> > it
> > makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to install YesScript, which
> > also makes no difference.
> 
> Have a look at the inspector (right-click the offending item, press q). I
> don't know whether FX 38 already had that, it's so hard to keep track
> noawadays with the ongoing version number inflation. On the right-hand side
> of the inspector there should be a Fonts tab which should show you a preview
> of the font being used.
> 
> Did you always have this problem or is it new with this version of Firefox?

Peter has AdBlock on which interprets some of the icon fonts (e.g. FontAwsome) 
used on some websites as adverts and blocks them.  Disabling it and restarting 
the browser (ought to) make it work.  FF doesn't seem to have the same problem 
with Google's icon fonts.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Symbols missing from Firefox

[Holger Hoffstätte]

On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:02:24 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

>> Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
> 
> I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus. Disabling it 
> makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to install YesScript, which 
> also makes no difference.

Check:

Preferences -> Content -> Fonts:
"Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above"

If you want to toggle between sane (i.e. your) fonts and random web crap
you can install the "Document Font Toggle" extension.

-h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Symbols missing from Firefox

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 16:31:30 Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:02:24 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
> > 
> > I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus. Disabling
> > it makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to install YesScript,
> > which also makes no difference.
> 
> Check:
> 
> Preferences -> Content -> Fonts:
> "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above"

Well I'm damned (again). I had that disabled in an attempt to prevent sites 
from showing their text in pale grey, which is only any good if your eyes 
are many years younger than mine. It doesn't work though. And now you prompt 
me to look at colours in preferences | content. Just the ticket.

> If you want to toggle between sane (i.e. your) fonts and random web crap
> you can install the "Document Font Toggle" extension.

Thank you Holger. I shall make good use of it.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

[gentoo-user] Re: Symbols missing from Firefox

[»Q«]

On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:03:06 +0100
Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 16:31:30 Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:02:24 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:  
> > >> Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?  
> > > 
> > > I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus.
> > > Disabling it makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to
> > > install YesScript, which also makes no difference.  
> > 
> > Check:
> > 
> > Preferences -> Content -> Fonts:
> > "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections
> > above"  
> 
> Well I'm damned (again). I had that disabled in an attempt to prevent
> sites from showing their text in pale grey, which is only any good if
> your eyes are many years younger than mine. It doesn't work though.
> And now you prompt me to look at colours in preferences | content.
> Just the ticket.
> 
> > If you want to toggle between sane (i.e. your) fonts and random web
> > crap you can install the "Document Font Toggle" extension.  
> 
> Thank you Holger. I shall make good use of it.

FWIW, most of these problems went away for me with Fx 41, and I don't
know if the fix went into Fx 38 or not.  The bug was
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789788>, and comment 143
summarizes what they ended up doing.  

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Symbols missing from Firefox

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 02 Jun 2016 12:08:22 »Q« wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:03:06 +0100
> 
> Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 Jun 2016 16:31:30 Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:02:24 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > >> Do you use NoScript? If yes, does it allow webfonts?
> > > > 
> > > > I should have said that the only extra I have is AdBlock Plus.
> > > > Disabling it makes no difference. And your hint reminded me to
> > > > install YesScript, which also makes no difference.
> > > 
> > > Check:
> > > 
> > > Preferences -> Content -> Fonts:
> > > "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections
> > > above"
> > 
> > Well I'm damned (again). I had that disabled in an attempt to prevent
> > sites from showing their text in pale grey, which is only any good if
> > your eyes are many years younger than mine. It doesn't work though.
> > And now you prompt me to look at colours in preferences | content.
> > Just the ticket.
> > 
> > > If you want to toggle between sane (i.e. your) fonts and random web
> > > crap you can install the "Document Font Toggle" extension.
> > 
> > Thank you Holger. I shall make good use of it.
> 
> FWIW, most of these problems went away for me with Fx 41, and I don't
> know if the fix went into Fx 38 or not.

I can't tell either from what I can see.

> The bug was <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789788>, and
> comment 143 summarizes what they ended up doing.

Interesting - thanks.

-- 
Rgds
Peter