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From: Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@gmx.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:10:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160412201010.GA16313@tp.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160412195334.7fe86ea8@digimed.co.uk>

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:53:34PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote:

A while ago I set up a VM in which I can observe KDE 5 as it matures. Right
now I find it not yet usable, mostly because many things are not yet ported
and because of random crashes of plasma. (And I too find Breeze too much
space-consuming, plus there are those single-colour icons that are clearly
inspired by Spysoft Windows 10).
Oh well, in the early days of KDE 4 I was a huge fan of KDE 3’s Crystal
icons, and now I really like Oxygen. It is always a question of getting used
to change. But those thin, colourless, sometimes abstract lines really make
it more difficult to recognise stuff, making it also a UX issue.

> > Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too.  You just change the setting
> > from kdm to sddm and it just works.  It looks different but it works
> > fine.  That may have carried over some settings.  It selected the user
> > and was ready for my password just like kdm did.  Again, it looks
> > different but it seems to work the same.  I suspect one could adjust the
> > settings, somewhere, and make it look like kdm if they wanted to.
>
> That's because kdm is dead. I found sddm a little flakey. On my laptop it
> works more or less as expected, but on my desktop, selecting reboot or
> power off from the desktop drops me back to sddm without rebooting.

I don't particularly like SDDM. I does not allow me to log in using just the
keyboard, I always have to click into the password field after it loaded up.
The field is neither active by default nor can I select it with Tab. Call it
a nitpick, but even Windows lets me enter my password without a mouse. Is it
a problem with my VM or can you confirm this?

This would more belong to a KDE forum, but since I’m at it, I can just as
well blurb it here. :)
I have a similar argument about the new cascading (“old-style”) Application
menu in KDE 5: In KDE 4, I can access any item in the Leave menu (and any
other submenu, for that matter) with Alt+F1 and two letters (as long as they
get a shortcut letter assigned). This is not possible anymore due to the new
search field.
Well, my argument is a bit self-contradicting because in KDE 3 SuSE hat a
similar search field in the menu and back then I actually liked that. But
nowadays we have KRunner for searching. The cascading menu is perfect for
fast keyboard-based navigation using the starting letter. And even though I
don’t use the favorites feature myself, those are also not accessible with
the keyboard at all.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-12 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-12  5:38 [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing Dale
2016-04-12  5:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-12  7:04   ` Dale
2016-04-12  8:14     ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 18:21       ` Dale
2016-04-12 18:53         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-12 19:05           ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 19:30           ` Dale
2016-04-12 20:10           ` Frank Steinmetzger [this message]
2016-04-12 20:13             ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-12 20:39             ` Marc Joliet
2016-04-13  2:55               ` Dale
2016-04-13  4:22                 ` Daniel Frey
2016-04-13  8:43                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-13 13:35                 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2016-04-12 21:00           ` Daniel Frey
2016-04-12 23:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-13 13:30               ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2016-04-13 20:19                 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-13 20:43                   ` »Q«
2016-04-13 21:21                     ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-15 21:16                       ` »Q«
2016-04-12 19:04         ` [gentoo-user] " J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 19:18           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2016-04-12 19:31             ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 20:01               ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-12 20:17                 ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 21:19                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-13  6:45                     ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 20:18                 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-12 20:31                   ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-12 20:43                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-13 13:23                       ` »Q«
2016-04-12 20:46                   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2016-04-12 20:50                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-14 20:38                       ` walt
2016-04-14 21:13                         ` Mick
2016-04-15  8:41                         ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-15 14:37                           ` »Q«
2016-04-12 20:55                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-13  5:43                       ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-13  8:06                         ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-14  4:27                           ` Jonathan Callen
2016-04-12 21:17                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-13  3:11           ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
2016-04-13 13:43             ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2016-04-13 21:41               ` Dale
2016-04-13 12:17 ` [gentoo-user] " Yuri K. Shatroff
2016-04-13 21:49   ` Dale
2016-04-14  7:33     ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2016-04-14  7:43       ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-14  7:58         ` Dale
2016-04-14  8:01           ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-14  8:03           ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-14  8:14             ` J. Roeleveld
2016-04-14  8:22               ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-14  8:19             ` Dale
2016-04-14 11:44           ` Alan McKinnon
2016-04-14  8:21         ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2016-04-14  8:36           ` Dale
2016-04-14  8:53             ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2016-04-14 17:00           ` Gregory Woodbury
2016-04-14 19:39           ` Mick
2016-04-14 23:33             ` [gentoo-user] " Jonathan Callen
2016-04-15  8:43             ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2016-04-15 22:45               ` Mick
2016-04-16  0:48                 ` Dale
2016-04-14 15:14       ` Daniel Frey
2016-04-14 16:02         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-04-14 19:43           ` Daniel Frey
2016-04-14  5:19 ` Dale

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