From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDB91384B4 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E28EC21C090; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E940821C06B for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aBACY-0002Iv-Sb for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:49:14 +0100 Received: from ip5f5ae08a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([95.90.224.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:49:14 +0100 Received: from hurikhan77 by ip5f5ae08a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:49:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Kai Krakow Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem with openrc-0.18.4 and ifplugd Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:49:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20151222004902.3d606617@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> References: <201512201826.31348.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201512212237.56009.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <56787F5D.8050104@gmail.com> <201512212320.26201.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/oCH6zz.wbbzwLxKWEeHsAt_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip5f5ae08a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 53ff9877-b714-4ffd-96a1-d39401c59f4b X-Archives-Hash: e0ecf8e66e66a562799134bdf9fe1c49 --Sig_/oCH6zz.wbbzwLxKWEeHsAt_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:20:24 +0000 schrieb Mick : > On Monday 21 Dec 2015 22:38:21 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 22/12/2015 00:37, Mick wrote: >=20 > > > Am I alone in experiencing this? Any ideas for fixing it? > > > Should I post a bug and if so where? I'm thinking that asking > > > Lennart to fix ifplugd so that it works with openrc would be > > > taking it a step too far. :p > >=20 > > read the news items for the last 3 months or so. > >=20 > > openrc changes, networking and service dependencies have changed > > somewhat, all well documented in the news items >=20 > Thank you Alan, I believe I've read the news item you refer to, but I > am not sure I understand how or why it applies to two laptops. The > news item refers to localmount and netmount which if they cannot be > mounted will cause problems. I don't use netmount on these laptops: >=20 > # rc-update -s -v | grep mount > localmount | boot =20 > mount-ro | shutdown =20 > netmount | >=20 >=20 > localmount works and I see no failures in mounting my filesystems. > What fails repeatably is ifplugd, which no longer starts wired or > wireless devices. >=20 You could try running the service in debug mode (--debug), and look at the line starting ifplugd. Check if the parameters look correct, then try to fire the same command from command line and check the console output for errors. By the way: Is ifplugd still needed? I thought it has been replacable by openrcs improved hotplug/coldplug support a long time ago? I remember my main purpose of using ifplugd back the days I still used it was to decouple the network init latency from the rest of the boot process and thus speed it up - in addition to the benefit of not starting some services at all when no network was plugged in. Part of the problem may be that udev handles device renaming and bootstrapping now. Maybe ifplugd should be called from udev and no longer be a service? In the end, ifplugd is tied to the device name - and thus must be part of the device service it is going to manage. And I don't think this is how it works in openrc nowadays. Thus it needs to move deeper down the layer - which is udev. Alternatively, NetworkManager is probably also a good replacement then - tho I totally understand why you wouldn't want to install it. At least you wouldn't have to ask Lennart then for fixing ifplugd in openrc if problems arise. ;-) As a side note: systemd-networkd handles and fits the same purpose as ifplugd very well - should you consider to migrate to systemd. *scnr* It's also not by Lennart, which elevates your problems with asking Lennart to fix something. :-) --=20 Regards, Kai Replies to list-only preferred. --Sig_/oCH6zz.wbbzwLxKWEeHsAt_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlZ4j/MACgkQ+D7cQ/kIzAVfYACeNv4noS19WUOBPQivSlWgGmik UD8Anik3oFC9XD5XZ3UWr3FR0UIzg0Pm =3HbJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/oCH6zz.wbbzwLxKWEeHsAt_--