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[217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q141sm11012492wmg.3.2015.11.11.11.05.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:05:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Better CPU for compiling with gcc Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:05:11 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.1.12-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <56422D9C.6060001@gmail.com> <5642444D.9050205@gmail.com> <5642487A.3040701@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5642487A.3040701@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2132107.DTERbe9fEl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201511111905.21852.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 51c32fa6-3753-45cf-8ffd-9814c63d3ff4 X-Archives-Hash: 7db6c099ea1c0260996848da24638f6f --nextPart2132107.DTERbe9fEl Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday 10 Nov 2015 19:41:46 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 10/11/2015 21:07, Stanislav Nikolov wrote: > >> 8GB of RAM are waaay more than I use daily (several firefox tabs, nvim= =3D > >> 2Gb max), I have a pretty fast SSD too. Even buying 8GB RAM and a brand > >> new SSD, I have > $450 left. Can I buy a AMD CPU that will get the job > >> done faster than 6700k and/or cheaper? > >=20 > > That changes things. It wasn't obvious you already had RAM & SSD & stuf= f. > >=20 > > I'd first make sure I have a decent PSU - none of that crap puny > > el-cheapo $300 shit (search list archives for 1000s of posts about dodgy > > PSUs). Then split the difference between 8G RAM, a good CPU and an > > excellent motherboard. You will use that extra RAM, and a motherboard > > that ties all the bits together properly is much more cost-effective > > than raw CPU grunt alone. >=20 > If he needs a guide to at least increase the odds of getting a good P/S, > this may help. >=20 > http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=3DNDReviews&op=3DReview_Cat&rec= atnum=3D > 13 >=20 >=20 > I been reading their reviews for a few years. They are pretty tough. > To be honest, if I picked out one that rated 8 on their scale, that > would likely be a good P/S for me. You get into the 9's and it should > be a really good one. Short of lightening, it would be the last thing > I'd expect trouble from. They torture them pretty well. Should be the > worst a P/S should ever see, example, air conditioner goes out and its > really warm that day. Also, they take them apart so you can see what > is inside them, good brand of caps for example. Still, they include the > quality of the build and parts in their scoring. If a company skimps on > that, they deduct points. >=20 > Honestly tho, the P/S is a critical part. If it fails, it can wreak all > kinds of havoc. I've seen P/Ss go out and take a mobo, hard drive or > something else out with it. After all, pretty much everythign plugs > into power somehow. >=20 > Hope that helps. >=20 > Dale >=20 > :-) :-) >=20 > P. S. Makes me want to upgrade my CPU to a 8 core now. I need a hard > drive first tho. ;-) Yes, a good quality PSU will safeguard your components and your data. Buy= =20 something with Japanese capacitors. BTW, let me correct earlier numbers .... My i7 timings are from a conventio= nal=20 emerge of firefox with /var/tmp/portage on a spinning drive. The laptop do= es=20 not have enough memory to emerge FF on a tmpfs. :p The AMD emerge timings was derived on a 2400MHz tmpfs. So this was somewha= t=20 an apples and oranges comparison. Apologies for a bum steer. I wouldn't b= e=20 surprised if the latest skylake i7s on some Ripjaws DDR4 tmpfs wasn't able = to=20 emerge it closer to 10 minutes. That would be quite an achievement compare= d=20 to your current PC. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2132107.DTERbe9fEl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJWQ5FxAAoJELAdA+zwE4YetTQIAMiSg1kW8I53oa0c3DtUBXa/ uoilVpFwkRTxtlVD4XvpgV+mR/NyR3K4VKcSHWC0bh6DVx/ono2vMrOqFlkxj7r3 OJYEgOKxubg1hNujFaoKX7VZ9EAHt4cNZjgbLygxYxyGLyq8stCZpXmWZQLTS3Ow ueErJhzQU4XR+EcKQndLJrWQ3GoDtPY2hn+MTSo/BiTp8P0Auig5GJxX1qm0Flfb zB5WUvCsZeRFy8oJgrgYdCNfy2Xd8cVmJ1WN9etjPc45cHOk8rpdqWaeNYPVxGxx eprU7D96302BvtY0edSl2HIW92dI0IscMS2X4rIsh9z+rzlKEs2A53a1h1ecf7w= =46F7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2132107.DTERbe9fEl--