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[217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ew2sm722648wic.20.2015.10.15.15.01.24 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:01:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Technical imap mail question Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:01:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <20151015100422.55984dd8@a6> In-Reply-To: <20151015100422.55984dd8@a6> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1945759.Gd05DMTmXp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201510152301.26906.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 2c9d854f-0238-4d51-97ca-72846b22a24d X-Archives-Hash: 95afbf222cb455add183e47dff9b466d --nextPart1945759.Gd05DMTmXp Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 15 Oct 2015 18:04:22 walt wrote: > My ISP recently started offering imap email service in addition to > the pop3/smtp servers they've always had, so I decided to try it. >=20 > I was surprised to see that they recommend using a different smtp > server name when setting up my mail client, and they even offer the > option of using port 587 instead of 465 if I prefer it. >=20 > Why would I use a different smtp server if I'm now using imap? I use > smtp to send mail, and imap to read it, right? Why not use the same > smtp server in either case? >=20 > (The different server names actually resolve to the same IP address, so > the distinction seems to be more theoretical than real, but the theory > is what puzzles me.) >=20 > Thanks. Port 587 is for TLS and is the proper port to be used by MSAs as per RFC640= 9. Port 467 on the other hand is for SMTPS: vanilla SMTP at the application=20 level, but the communication to the server is still secured at the transpor= t=20 layer with SSL. This was an IANA attempt to provide a port for secure emai= l=20 communication pre-STARTTLS days. Today I think may be used for other=20 purposes, but I am not sure if it is TCP or UDP streaming. Port 25 (outgoing) is blocked by most domestic ISPs to guard against the=20 millions of pawned botnets out there filling out inboxes with spam. The question about a different SMTP server might have something to do with= =20 your ISP adding a new SMTP mailserver to their farm and configuring it=20 properly this time as per RFC6409. Although as Alan said, they probably=20 rolled out whatever the chosen ISP package software vendor provided for the= m=20 without knowing much about it, or why it is configured the way it is=20 configured. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1945759.Gd05DMTmXp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJWICI2AAoJELAdA+zwE4Ye29oIAM1qizQRAqv+65x7ScU8IW7Q upkmxzqRMFJtwkiNxSm0rRWmY8ZUsWukWAXWu5qNC9C7qv2rQiyH2atj20ftfma7 bZmk8A94B6UV4lSsD1ivFSNw5P2zIyHGLD1UDmr7I9IQRYlEB4Azblimr3cy90UU PfSN308rJXTZXpLyn0zfL2UXqkfXq2totVALgPExwcMT0ln5iV8+baXUMg8uyYJ6 kbke0vbLtDzqe+UlE2ZakdlBwCZ4yxbvtL0gFNl4ywcQpq7uPyyFDok7ezS3g63P qK9mxgX6dNVIzEjB21RBRCp75mQJbvnkvCna2WRmNoIJmN8DUHDeoYJliCB4Oxk= =oyrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1945759.Gd05DMTmXp--