From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B4113881B for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B28321C029; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEAEE07DB for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (yooden.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C2F3B189C14 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:08:13 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:08:08 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update problems Message-ID: <20150922190808.1cf3858e@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <87eghucic9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <55FDD3CC.3010205@gmail.com> <55FF0A88.3090806@gmail.com> <55FF1E2F.9060502@gmail.com> <56017BC7.3030405@gmail.com> <20150922174211.25cdad24@hactar.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0-86-gf54e21 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/3hudq2jstYM7rKyAeOXxCy/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 1bd8e086-1142-4d84-bf83-e4d4e0b24a2f X-Archives-Hash: cd5f904669a727e176122ad414f8dd1b --Sig_/3hudq2jstYM7rKyAeOXxCy/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:35:10 +0000 (UTC), James wrote: > > I take a different approach, I have a set called temp in my > > world_sets. If I want to try something out, I "echo cat/pkg > > >>/etc/portage/sets/temp" then I can try it and keep it updated > > >>during the trial and not have to > > worry about its deps. All I need to do is look at the temp file from > > time to time and remove anything I no longer want, then it gets > > depcleaned along with its dependencies. =20 >=20 > That's a good approach. But, what I'm looking for could be a general > purpose tool for *all* of the gentoo community to parse and identify > packages that are not being updated or at lease fall into the orphan > category. One common case is those packages installed (-1). I'd venture > to guess from time to time that most gentoo users have packages > installed that are not dependencies for any other packages. Often is it > by accident or extreme manual cleansing events (like the recent ncurses > episode) that folks stumble across these orphaned packages. I just > think a tool or option in an existing tool does/should cover that > scenario. It is a routine need, imho. That's exactly what depclean is for, to find any packages that are not dependencies of the installed sets. > That said are there any make.conf mods need to use sets like this, > or just create the dir and and use your command line string? That's all you do. Any file in /etc/portage/sets containing a list of atoms is taken to be a set definition. > I might not use it permanently the way you do, but I can see putting > a collection of (-1) packages into a set, for organizational structure. > With clustering now infecting my gentoo world, I'll need a master by > architecture, logically organized collection of "sets" to cover the > myriad of node set-ups. Each system will most likely have a different > installation of these sets. And the cluster is now moving to a > multi-arch setup with aarch64. I use sets like that too. I have one called base that I installed at the chroot stage of installation, containing various essential and useful packages - such as portage-utils, conf-update and eix. Then sets called desktop and laptop - sets can contain other sets so when installing my new laptop I only have to "emerge -u @laptop". --=20 Neil Bothwick Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery :) --Sig_/3hudq2jstYM7rKyAeOXxCy/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlYBmQgACgkQum4al0N1GQNHKACfR0VLPqeeZ1L4CDLb//cEwgH7 QlIAoLKE1aGuyTvgwqIHm0nDd/pFcM2Q =2pEq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/3hudq2jstYM7rKyAeOXxCy/--