From: Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update problems
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:37:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150920003753.GN1080@ca.inter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FDE5C9.6070801@gmail.com>
150920 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 20/09/2015 00:17, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> While Gentoo doesn't do as much handholding as many distros,
>> the Portage output above should not be viewed
>> as something we are proud of.
> It's either due to it being a really hard problem
> or the Portage team is short of manpower.
> Either way, I'm content not to bitch about it mainly
> as the tree is a unique thing in the Linux world
> Portage only knows what it has in it's internal data structures
> when it decides it can't continue. It can't provide the user
> with a meaningful answer as is so often asked for here,
> so what is it supposed to do?
My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated
& its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary attention.
Complaints or pleas for help like the OP's here are quite frequent
& not all of them come from novices who don't understand what Gentoo does.
Portage sb able to report eg
"Pkg1 & Pkg2 (of Version1 & Version2) can't be installed together ;
Pkg1 is needed for Pkg3, which you already have installed ;
Pkg2 is needed for Pkg4, which you are trying to install.
Please review your needs : you may need to remove a package temporarily
in order for Portage to proceed, then restore a different version of it".
That's a common problem, which experienced users can diagnose themselves,
but the present Portage output is too opaque to help newcomers.
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-19 19:36 [gentoo-user] update problems lee
2015-09-19 19:57 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-19 22:17 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-19 22:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-20 0:37 ` Philip Webb [this message]
2015-09-20 11:52 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-20 12:06 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-22 20:11 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-09-26 9:47 ` [gentoo-user] " lee
2015-09-26 11:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-27 19:17 ` lee
2015-09-27 21:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-28 22:52 ` lee
2015-09-28 23:46 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-29 18:56 ` lee
2015-09-29 0:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-29 18:45 ` lee
2015-09-29 19:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-03 17:27 ` lee
2015-10-01 9:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-10-01 11:10 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 13:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-10-03 18:10 ` lee
2015-10-03 20:01 ` allan gottlieb
2015-09-20 14:25 ` lee
2015-09-20 17:24 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-20 17:31 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-26 13:51 ` lee
2015-09-26 15:09 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-27 19:35 ` lee
2015-09-26 16:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-26 13:10 ` lee
2015-09-26 15:31 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-26 16:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-26 18:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-26 20:58 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-19 20:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-19 20:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-19 20:12 ` Mick
2015-09-20 15:28 ` lee
2015-09-20 15:57 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-20 16:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-26 15:00 ` lee
2015-09-27 13:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-20 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-21 1:29 ` Paul Colquhoun
2015-09-19 21:29 ` Daniel Frey
2015-09-20 18:07 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-09-20 19:35 ` Daniel Frey
2015-09-20 20:59 ` Dale
2015-09-22 15:55 ` James
2015-09-22 16:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 16:39 ` James
2015-09-22 17:17 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 16:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-22 17:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 17:35 ` James
2015-09-22 18:08 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-22 19:05 ` Dale
2015-09-20 20:24 ` Neil Bothwick
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2015-09-29 20:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-29 20:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30 0:02 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-10-01 11:22 ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30 0:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30 7:36 ` Mick
2015-10-01 11:26 ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:35 ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-10-01 12:21 ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 14:35 ` Mick
2015-10-01 23:00 ` Walter Dnes
2015-10-02 7:41 ` Mick
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