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From: Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update problems
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:37:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150920003753.GN1080@ca.inter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FDE5C9.6070801@gmail.com>

150920 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 20/09/2015 00:17, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> While Gentoo doesn't do as much handholding as many distros,
>> the Portage output above should not be viewed
>> as something we are proud of.
> It's either due to it being a really hard problem
> or the Portage team is short of manpower.
> Either way, I'm content not to bitch about it mainly
> as the tree is a unique thing in the Linux world
> Portage only knows what it has in it's internal data structures
> when it decides it can't continue.  It can't provide the user
> with a meaningful answer as is so often asked for here,
> so what is it supposed to do?

My impression is that using Portage has become more complicated
& its warning/error messages have not been given the necessary attention.
Complaints or pleas for help like the OP's here are quite frequent
& not all of them come from novices who don't understand what Gentoo does.

Portage sb able to report eg

  "Pkg1 & Pkg2 (of Version1 & Version2) can't be installed together ;
  Pkg1 is needed for Pkg3, which you already have installed ;
  Pkg2 is needed for Pkg4, which you are trying to install.
  Please review your needs : you may need to remove a package temporarily
  in order for Portage to proceed, then restore a different version of it".

That's a common problem, which experienced users can diagnose themselves,
but the present Portage output is too opaque to help newcomers.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-20  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-19 19:36 [gentoo-user] update problems lee
2015-09-19 19:57 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-19 22:17   ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-19 22:46     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-20  0:37       ` Philip Webb [this message]
2015-09-20 11:52         ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-20 12:06           ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-22 20:11             ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-09-26  9:47     ` [gentoo-user] " lee
2015-09-26 11:33       ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-27 19:17         ` lee
2015-09-27 21:29           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-28 22:52             ` lee
2015-09-28 23:46               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-09-29 18:56                 ` lee
2015-09-29  0:09               ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-29 18:45                 ` lee
2015-09-29 19:36                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-03 17:27                     ` lee
2015-10-01  9:39                   ` Neil Bothwick
2015-10-01 11:10                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 13:27                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-10-03 18:10                     ` lee
2015-10-03 20:01                       ` allan gottlieb
2015-09-20 14:25   ` lee
2015-09-20 17:24     ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-20 17:31       ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-26 13:51         ` lee
2015-09-26 15:09           ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-27 19:35             ` lee
2015-09-26 16:28           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-26 13:10       ` lee
2015-09-26 15:31         ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-26 16:47         ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-26 18:16           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-26 20:58             ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-19 20:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-19 20:11   ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-19 20:12   ` Mick
2015-09-20 15:28   ` lee
2015-09-20 15:57     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-20 16:29     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-26 15:00       ` lee
2015-09-27 13:14         ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-20 16:35     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-21  1:29   ` Paul Colquhoun
2015-09-19 21:29 ` Daniel Frey
2015-09-20 18:07   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-09-20 19:35     ` Daniel Frey
2015-09-20 20:59       ` Dale
2015-09-22 15:55         ` James
2015-09-22 16:03           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 16:39             ` James
2015-09-22 17:17               ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 16:42             ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-22 17:08               ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-22 17:35               ` James
2015-09-22 18:08                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-09-22 19:05             ` Dale
2015-09-20 20:24     ` Neil Bothwick
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-29 20:00 [gentoo-user] Major site redesign, SEO, and 301 redirects Tanstaafl
2015-09-29 20:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2015-09-29 20:39   ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30  0:02     ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-10-01 11:22       ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:25         ` Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30  0:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-09-30  7:36   ` Mick
2015-10-01 11:26     ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:35   ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 11:58     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-10-01 12:21       ` Tanstaafl
2015-10-01 14:35         ` Mick
2015-10-01 23:00           ` Walter Dnes
2015-10-02  7:41             ` Mick

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