From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A3A1399E6 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 09:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8F56143AB; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 09:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CFC142BD for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 09:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (yooden.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AE10D177A69 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:00:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:00:29 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means Message-ID: <20150904100029.2f643213@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <55E8C427.9030501@xunil.at> References: <20150901180605.307c494c@a6> <55E8B141.6030803@gmail.com> <55E8C427.9030501@xunil.at> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0-73-g9654c6 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/n5q+h=qV1bd4xUNtn6OiCPN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 1668b3d6-0bb5-4f81-ae45-af211376ff27 X-Archives-Hash: 569caef572ca4c06f040aebbe46cb59d --Sig_/n5q+h=qV1bd4xUNtn6OiCPN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:05:27 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > But don't you agree that it *should* be possible to simply pull upgrades > from the distro of choice without solving "problems in my head" ? >=20 > IMO it's the definition of maintainers to keep that level of complexity > away from the plain users. Especially for users of the stable "branch" > (the OP of this thread wrote "stable" =3D amd64 machine). It should, but this is not an ideal world. The ncurses thing was simply a bug that affected a lot of people because subslots didn't work in the way some devs expected. It should have worked but some thing broke and it didn't, then a bug report was filed, the problem discussed and fixed, so now you can just upgrade without a problem. This does add weight to Alan's argument that subslots are not that well thought out, but Gentoo (like life) is a perpetual work in progress. --=20 Neil Bothwick The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up. --Sig_/n5q+h=qV1bd4xUNtn6OiCPN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlXpXa0ACgkQum4al0N1GQO1XgCfWo+CkqAbGAyGH2Aaupn3Wasu oUcAoJhgM7wLQDzjVUUKgK945RarZbNj =9mSJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/n5q+h=qV1bd4xUNtn6OiCPN--