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[217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ja8sm18239312wjb.13.2015.08.30.10.26.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:26:49 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> <55E336B8.7040706@gmail.com> <55E337C9.7030001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55E337C9.7030001@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12319832.xtoLePxLZS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201508301826.50580.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: e83949ac-b2bf-4cee-86ea-7ae7eaa487ca X-Archives-Hash: 7f8d9b8e411d51b76d7dcf0d100459b8 --nextPart12319832.xtoLePxLZS Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 18:05:13 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 30/08/2015 19:00, Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 30/08/2015 17:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> On Sunday 30 August 2015 00:04:43 Philip Webb wrote: > >>>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between > >>>> reboots ? How long between power off/on's ? > >>>>=20 > >>>> I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I slee= p, > >>>> then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. > >>>> However recently, I've run into delays getting my router > >>>> (only 1 device attached) to shake hands successfully with my ISP's > >>>> server, which have been requiring several power off/on's before it > >>>> works. As a result, I've started rebooting only after my weekly > >>>> system update -- it means I get to use the new versions of everything > >>>> -- > >>>> & not powering off at all ; the monitor + Xscreensaver are off > >>>> whenever I'm away from the machine for >=3D 1 hr (approx). > >>>>=20 > >>>> Are there any pro's/con's I sb aware of ? > >>>=20 > >>> No-one has yet mentioned taking backups. I'm still using a brute-force > >>> approach, in which I shut down each of my two machines once a week to > >>> make a backup to external disk. Otherwise they're on 24 hours a day > >>> running BOINC projects. On the desktop PC kmail makes a daily archive > >>> of messages, and once a day a cron job copies my user directory to > >>> /home/.bu/ . > >>>=20 > >>> I know it burns energy but I'm prepared to make my small contribution > >>> to what I think is a good cause. > >>=20 > >> A desktop or laptop will typically draw far less power than a single 6= 0W > >> incandescent bulb. I bet you have quite a lot of those. Even if not, t= he > >> CFLs you'll have to give you light at night still draw much much more > >> than a computer. > >>=20 > >> If saving energy is your personal driver, then you should be looking at > >> water heaters, central heaters, aircon and stove as the main culprits. > >> Everything else, whilst measurable, is a small drop in the bucket and > >> probably not worth worrying about. > >>=20 > >> Assuming of course that your computer is a desktop/laptop, and not a 4= 2U > >> cabinet jam packed full of Dell 2950s > >=20 > > Don't forget the clothes dryer to, if you have one. Mine is electric > > and it pulls as much as my water heater does. I just don't use it as > > much is all. >=20 > I forgot about that :-) >=20 > Add in almost all laundry appliances and kitchen power tools too... Modern appliances with Green stickers on them (whatever they're called) are= =20 more efficient by design. To some extent this is also true with PCs. I st= ill=20 have an old Pentium 4 32bit running a couple of test environments and back = up=20 storage. I can assure you that the room gets hot after it has been running= =20 for a couple of hours! :-) =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart12319832.xtoLePxLZS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJV4zzaAAoJELAdA+zwE4YeT5UH/ilbCSD4md7d1sMTLV1w7YU0 Yoa1vVvPpNgqM0gPxgw6EW6TNsvfX65oVNPzgh91njOpcrqGtoP3imDzMej4h5yz ZCzpRteChS4HUB/mBhWlP7lFSpzrMJ7zsFJQsCYHKCb+VWDCtF+Ye3SPbsiJh1Dr BdlePFzgLPZujfaVGyBiQXHlFr3uPxPOctBKpshAAftiKdUkF7LE9RwAKFKlfscg 6s4tIHbIhWb+0KdenbjQkOeWgDOkODVekQAXjITcFHDU2M49px/0SmgJsA+HHfe8 +H5FZZ2DpAt+/qVE0ODzSmFHZiYRuTuA3b4jPQOhGkJ0WYHFuGP9mTEdutveNDQ= =aOji -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12319832.xtoLePxLZS--