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[217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d17sm17570799wjs.32.2015.08.30.07.21.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:21:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:21:40 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> <20150830132636.GB2724@acm.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <20150830132636.GB2724@acm.fritz.box> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2425728.6ZS2iRssi7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201508301521.48712.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 37ab0ad9-2886-4035-9616-cade6f923f06 X-Archives-Hash: ea45b99b115cee4544cf1aa2613e8839 --nextPart2425728.6ZS2iRssi7 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 30 Aug 2015 14:26:36 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Philip. >=20 > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots= ? > > How long between power off/on's ? >=20 > I switch my PC on in the morning when I want to start using it. I > switch it off before going to bed, or going out shopping, or things like > that. I don't like wasting electricity. Same here. Unless I am somewhere near the desk the laptop is on sleep. =20 Overnight it is shut down. > > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, > > then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. > > However recently, I've run into delays getting my router > > (only 1 device attached) to shake hands successfully with my ISP's > > server, which have been requiring several power off/on's before it > > works. I think that it may be better troubleshooting your ISP PPPoE negotiation (o= r=20 whatever protocol they are using) than changing your usage habits. Well, I= =20 would be doing this anyway, out of curiosity. :-) > Unfortunately, I need to leave my router permanently powered up, which I > resent. German telephone companies have been offering only VOIP > telephone connections for some while, now, which basically means that > instead of the companies converting IP packets into a telephone signal, > every subscriber's got to do it himself. So where people could > previously simply buy a telephone handset and plug it into the wall, > they've now potentially got to spend extra on a router and somehow > manage to configure that router. And of course, the router contuously > wastes electricity, waiting for that occasional incoming call, whereas > previously the handset was only powered up, from the exchange, when a > call was in progress. Progress this is not. I Power cuts can cause re-syncs and a lower sync rate for my connection, so= I=20 leave the router powered up 24-7 and connected to a UPS. The waste of=20 electricity is tiny. > > As a result, I've started rebooting only after my weekly system update > > -- it means I get to use the new versions of everything -- > > & not powering off at all ; the monitor + Xscreensaver are off > > whenever I'm away from the machine for >=3D 1 hr (approx). > >=20 > > Are there any pro's/con's I sb aware of ? As others have mentioned consider hibernation for overnight purposes (S4) a= nd=20 sleep (S3) for when you are away from your desk for longer periods of time.= =20 However, I would be intrigued as to what might be wrong with the ISP networ= k=20 authentication. ;-) =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2425728.6ZS2iRssi7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJV4xF8AAoJELAdA+zwE4YeDm0H/jsou770P65DM2i3t6boLtjb D5rSU17ltw8AjAOaLw5PvvA5UMoyF+vzPIiVCCXPNaOdyfSrNZrCD3yKlM2TbSYM xIkvvZmAfH++Ubmpm/hU6dDix7MoEc4cYfUWdmBbxLaMAEI5bq4qh2jYLfAIPGtd mbZUHOPHvAnArhAUkozEMaATqOQS2in6uAmPVbUOzmPEyS9bQd6IgTPz/h4JJuWT Lnu+iVeD+kw6LZn42lbg5hpPTowLikLawguU2YsBQ6/LkyzSsr75JcN0X51UzCaw 3u/2ecI5KiYT/3TEwCK0vvUZeVoL8cOikTwKUmxdke7kRqsRYDvxcAw136W0Quo= =7liq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2425728.6ZS2iRssi7--