From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071BA1384C0 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D52B14294; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205ED141CD for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2015 06:52:39 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CjCAA731xV/wLkjBhcgxCBMoJQhVXDEQKBPTsRAQEBAQEBAYEKhCMBAQMBOkQLCw0UExIPBVyIJAjPIwErizqEIRUEUhaDAYEWBYZhjA93igiBKIZQDguHLRWDaYNZI4QUIjGBAyOBIQEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0CjCAA731xV/wLkjBhcgxCBMoJQhVXDEQKBPTsRAQEBAQEBAYEKhCMBAQMBOkQLCw0UExIPBVyIJAjPIwErizqEIRUEUhaDAYEWBYZhjA93igiBKIZQDguHLRWDaYNZI4QUIjGBAyOBIQEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="161839038" Received: from unknown (HELO waltdnes.org) ([24.140.228.2]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 30 Aug 2015 02:52:38 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:52:34 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 02:52:34 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] system uptime Message-ID: <20150830065234.GA11585@waltdnes.org> References: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150830040443.GA1081@ca.inter.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Archives-Salt: 679224b1-a9c1-4d75-b42d-1b17c848eddc X-Archives-Hash: 37aa45bf190c40b59964f52c7951afcf On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote > How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ? > How long between power off/on's ? > > I've long been in the habit of switching everything off while I sleep, > then restarting after I've woken & got going again myself. However > recently, I've run into delays getting my router (only 1 device > attached) to shake hands successfully with my ISP's server, which have > been requiring several power off/on's before it works. I'm on Teksavvy, and I run into that on occasion. > As a result, I've started rebooting only after my weekly system update > -- it means I get to use the new versions of everything -- & not > powering off at all ; the monitor + Xscreensaver are off whenever I'm > away from the machine for >= 1 hr (approx). > > Are there any pro's/con's I sb aware of ? [d531][waltdnes][~] uptime 02:14:01 up 39 days, 5:31, 22 users, load average: 0.16, 0.22, 0.48 No, my machine has not been on for over 900 consecutive hours. It's that long since my most recent "full boot". sys-power/hibernate-script in suspend-to-disc mode totally shuts down the machine. It has to read the BIOS on start-up, but it restores all workspaces, and program state with multiple browsers/spreadsheets/etc open, from swap. I have multiple browser profiles, allowing me to dedicate separate instances to each forum. Plus I have ongong personal projects that have spreadsheets or vim open. It's an absolute pain to re-open all the browsers/spreadsheets/etc in each workspace when I do a "real reboot" for a new kernel. I currently have the display, speakers, modem, router, etc plugged into power bars that are plugged into a "slave jack" on my UPS. The desktop PC is plugged into the "master jack". When the "master" is drawing power, the "slave" jack provides power to the power bars. When I hibernate the PC, and it powers down, the "slave" jack cuts off power to the power bars. So shutting down or hibernating my PC shuts down display, speakers, modem, router, etc. Turning the PC back on powers them up again. If I had your problem, I would move my router/modem to a "filtered" plug on the UPS. So hibernation would shut down everything except the router/modem. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications