From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303501385BF for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8047195748; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C33014327 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicge2 with SMTP id ge2so5728118wic.0 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=VIOCuAY3QaBqfu1xVPCHoipI12AilL/s+zsrCqf+7zg=; b=wiEw3y3v3s4cO22dTKTzYVX7OTbkUYH3EA0WHhi81Oypo6LVSPxdIFmsIA3h/NbHLq KqfP38uX4YOm+tCVdn/lcv4NZLFqW2xWoiTuIcyV00qATUNC+I5Voq9FtxL42Ul8WbxW E2p8Lpz/CzWtD7UFK9ejKtiipVRTS6oMm9KiCC+snJPYjJBcWoYGhHNIu3b7GF2zoLta 3FEox8KF8BeSC7E5udEQHl77+tq2WeGkbdEqao4rj72ZvVgJ+cU/4BrbxzLtpQ3emWAQ orlnmBlT4btKNzxVS6h153ggmRq3z54f9aZYCJ+NB04bjOYFuAqzLyEZaSK9A1MSj0lk c2Qw== X-Received: by 10.180.186.41 with SMTP id fh9mr744491wic.7.1440713222099; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wx9sm5005998wjb.6.2015.08.27.15.07.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:06:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) References: <201508272044.13708.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart13481251.uH7bWTjnfY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201508272306.57167.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 508e144c-d64a-4181-9cc2-34250c8eebd0 X-Archives-Hash: 08ea759ff242cb5e171b27442028e34e --nextPart13481251.uH7bWTjnfY Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 21:03:19 Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:44:07 PM Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 27 Aug 2015 20:30:17 Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On 2015-08-27, James wrote: > > > > Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > > >> For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's > > > >> a pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy. > > > >=20 > > > > So you are saying (trying to read the 'tea leaves' here) that > > > > grub legacy ( grub-static-0.97-r12) will work well on a 64 bit > > > > systems, > > >=20 > > > I still use it on all my 64-bit machines. > > >=20 > > > > (u)efi with say multiple drives (> 2T) and Raid-1 configs like > > > > btrfs-native or via lvm? > > >=20 > > > I haven't started using UEFI boot mode mode yet, so I don't know how > > > thetwo grub's compare. > >=20 > > UEFI do not need GRUB{1,2} or any other boot manager. They can boot any > > kernel you drop in the EFI boot partition directly, as long as you set = it > > up so. It becomes cumbersome if you are planning to multiboot various > > kernels >=20 > & >=20 > > OS frequently. >=20 > You do need a manager like efibootmgr unless you have a really good "bios" > menu where you can manage your entries. Only removable media is > autodetected on all EFI boxes I've seen. I use GRUB2 because my efi > firmware (like most) is really buggy. Changing the boot order doesn't work > at all (neither on the menu nor through efibootmgr), so I have to delete > and recreate the entries in the right order. What I did is create 2 efi > entries, one for my main kernel and one for grub2 and I added entries for > all my secondary kernels and windows on the grub2 menu. Interesting ... here I had no such problems on an EUFI Asus MoBo. I have a= =20 number of kernels (up to six last time I looked) and I can change the boot= =20 order with 'efibootmgr -o ,,...,' =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart13481251.uH7bWTjnfY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJV34oBAAoJELAdA+zwE4YeCFoH/3Ijl3wJiP1QJeTw3maPsaT3 UZctKpcHnbweapyKe0eNGm8QcZh8/YMyh1qP31HVQDD7Ju+fhDd1YcrLbjmsYd3t SeOZNwSMdt0JlBH6mbiVzX0E3PRxlGUSYgGMD2CqYuq+eQaBqXw2vSkbZZw24su5 s0uG52Zt87NgLaHOgVJUvry3axEIdfVlto+tBfncMF5RoDgsFqIDVLxdEqThRHtk xopg8glcMNUbqiuFOb71W5zDh6OhJe5GRH6+I03YvqOpYNVq/QyqoaB0UF0E74oA broVuHuvDfgGhrxzOUBlE7Krk0bzCJPNLqgp/2b4P1e9ow7SpM2r2euCiCd6P/E= =gVQ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart13481251.uH7bWTjnfY--