From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AD0138D03 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 10:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 523C41405D; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 10:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11E9B1401B for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 10:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thetick ([93.181.44.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lfjxq-1YcqLJ1aXq-00pOM5 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:39:47 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:39:40 +0200 From: Marc Joliet To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash? Message-ID: <20150711123940.3822c8ed@thetick> In-Reply-To: References: <20150706100117.0d993a04@a6> <559E5D43.2070800@gmail.com> <20150709124824.10f75958@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <559e62cc.a673980a.c356c.657e@mx.google.com> <20150709170743.4d4ef6be@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20150710091601.0a4c9aff@digimed.co.uk> <559fde57.a4fe700a.4e7f.ffffb7fa@mx.google.com> <20150711001835.78574b33@thetick> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/bF97UPe_mC1v_KBDLX/zkLK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:/BAPnGmCiNsckvEs5rgnQF2Tco7+ddpo82zgl5kti+Z4eexMA24 bsQ3J3t1V/KLFK0VZ+Rq7guZD0YulyAsA1NghcyuEiLJELR0WVKm2c5qXnQzqD5BtCSxgl6 yASMTvmQL/iprApooJc/9WO6ceZPMcIanuh5c/CF5eY2BJWjMjUCbkEJdm2/BEtIT0LJBjE ErIOmWq7lTZQRxocG/ayA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9wDhp9Uzi3w=:3WuqPcsqImuQLkIItxvXLF QRkT4jc86LHihnfAdMyIF4vUoxsRfDlgcdTsH6IDdJhgMHKA4fUqFVFu9V/CmSIr92i3lrahC VJKEqKWBZArJWaRJDA3PdHAuicrqE+B3LCV2I2G7yPllFmkip8agmDFDc7hP4+DwWtKu4/HDn 1AcodI4cd/sko0+tZ1gVspR6AshKdmLshYQ2oegfZZog+lEIMyVCqemc0KhT9bV/cIdP5KnoF N8YpYOE0NlCkls5Qy0zfHULERvxESxPwbZt5uHa/mTQaKgtddplYiv96dSerAhmQh7xdL9mc4 2Dr6yJMdjkBrei/i/oA8r0hBG4Oppw8XthPFLo07qK4giOiDUs8ZSBFJzr2MKIzC0el1a6ol6 +NVXYgtdaMnFC813Cx07XxAdQ5/S6XsmnUQdA8OXoog6YEGGRhRbIRrIXAsoU6uBhDg6Yo5Zg Tfy/7e7JotSSAqqFrSpufy/drjJvOBZdxTMSdCYTKJEWrVIsCpOwtyG6FbphqYbKGJTyk1Vb4 ml3PtpAO+qEOw4KGhJVTlZGrFDGSjmKgeiTU6IR2Uh1GUO/k+sPZX4ymMewLw+Uz5+VrLoUdx 4n/oSspULUNEuq53xMYAaxnmole+tO81ysP4hhLVA4eBPQnZkZThKKcGjMfmboWzL+tLAKnp7 N5uoOm3IIllhJc08HSZXNkUZmaRGjj26qLJWFJP6QjktyaA== X-Archives-Salt: 7b7ac4a4-d96f-4b51-a4f5-581cc61258a0 X-Archives-Hash: 084a99bd42b43d9612d296547e085eb3 --Sig_/bF97UPe_mC1v_KBDLX/zkLK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:22:56 +0300 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras : > On 11/07/15 01:18, Marc Joliet wrote: > > Am Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:39:05 +0300 > > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras : > > > >> On 10/07/15 18:00, Gevisz wrote: > >>> bindkey '^[[7~' beginning-of-line # Home (xterm) > >>> bindkey '^[[8~' end-of-line # End (xterm) > >> > >> lol... are these guys serious? > >> > >> It's 2015... > > > > What's wrong with C-a and C-e? On my keyboard they're not any more cum= bersome > > than reaching for Home/End (probably a bit less cumbersome in fact). >=20 > Pressing two keys at the same time with the same hand is not good. It=20 > just feels awkward. I have special keys for that. They should be used. >=20 > Also, word-based navigation doesn't either. Ctrl+left or ctrl+right, for= =20 > example. >=20 > I guess the lack of good defaults kills this shell. I really don't have=20 > time to learn arcane settings anymore. If it doesn't work out of the box= =20 > on what represents 99.99999999% of machines, I'll have to pass and=20 > wonder "what were they thinking?" That's fair, it all comes down to personal preference, anyway. It sounds to me, though, that FISH (http://fishshell.com/) might be a good fit? It goes through a lot of trouble to work well out of the box, though it's different enough in behaviour that it might take some getting used to (one reason I don't use it as my root shell is that "VAR=3Doverride command" does not wor= k, you have to explicitly export the variable). Anyway, it's just a suggestio= n. --=20 Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup --Sig_/bF97UPe_mC1v_KBDLX/zkLK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVoPJyAAoJEL/Q5oYsiHj0UtAQAITrjez1ibF6cVuON0Gfkt42 JdBi7jqyDRR/3NSg7vobbrgKYtdv5ihcSyRyb7nLaPnymgllLbgJWiKYCdvpNzry xP36Z2dx0JMKV5V5LG/pSUO6sasDHS5LZqMrExukwRyqiGC7RCZrNGWQ/qomPTB9 JX1xlXatTHM9F3tOwkrKresT0Vsfl6Pdw9+hJiu0al0vUxeYi30U3TVcoKdaQyAr GTM2NSzBxfw1Ewx/Yo9GT2vpZ+NfA67kGqlfhrg9BjG/NT75qher6c3BmbJ4AoU6 B86hrE35+ODYMvuGJ3YynslT2Nht+iHMeRy21Atw5x2vBZmxGI/KKuWRqn5Xun6a /M4vY00hOry5R4RBscVropg2/4vOdczAWR2ZEDIh4cRlKmZAkiwwO/KP/PwRFH1g NYb0j2wwyCzLeX8EbqGAI/al36Qf/GIjHu+rp8Nrv/5dyKtt4zaYEozwEry1oDUo fhyYi4GfEPbt6FBXY8ASLQMkQFF9IhaNas7PfXdRHT7mKVIY6JwSJgViUIBLhOgw M53xlf18MhFQrhk+CQ2+gDplDdPX41THX1pY6asEOzzEHCfvnrqqRJg0e/vD0b7Q 8XlIyxlpGKwrpN4qT/dnEJb9DER0W+f44zHdTyVelMYPHTlMFFSJHdoJ2dWwyN8v KVzvPV4c2OMT/19iKXu5 =sSKp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/bF97UPe_mC1v_KBDLX/zkLK--