From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAED138D10 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 23:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D27714020; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 23:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.wraeth.id.au (wraeth.id.au [106.187.101.125]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3FAE0899 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 23:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cerberus.civica.com.au (watch.civica.com.au [203.56.2.254]) by mail.wraeth.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2DC91F4D2 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 23:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:54:11 +1000 From: wraeth To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash? Message-ID: <20150709235410.GA20216@cerberus.civica.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20150706100117.0d993a04@a6> <559E5D43.2070800@gmail.com> <20150709124824.10f75958@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <559e62cc.a673980a.c356c.657e@mx.google.com> <20150709170743.4d4ef6be@hactar.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Archives-Salt: 27129f47-16b4-43d2-8d37-dbf94e36b0e7 X-Archives-Hash: ac2b42dc1fc26ea4890be3c5a650b6c3 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 02:36:50AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/07/15 02:34, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >I tried it [zsh], for exactly 10 seconds. My home/end keys didn't work. This > >gave me the impression of an unfinished project. Why on earth would > >anyone release a program after 1990 that doesn't know the home/end keys? > >:-/ > > PS: > > The "Del" key doesn't work either. > > All of these are likely due to your input mode; and for the record the same situation can exist in Bash as well (I've had customer servers that, when I hit Home or Del, drops out of insert mode and changes three characters to uppercase - it's frustrating!). The 'vim' input mode is often difficult to understand at first, but the trick with it is that, like vim, it has two states - insert mode and command mode, whereby insert mode (oddly enough) inserts characters to the line, and command mode allows for things like 'cw' to change a word or '~' to change the case of a character. That being said, it's all a matter of preference, and you should use whatever feels most comfortable for you. -- wraeth GnuPG Key: B2D9F759