[gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Philip Webb]

Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
there have been no changes in my config files.

Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen) hidden
& make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.

Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the pager,
the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid image
when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse away.
However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always.

Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Philip Webb]

150607 Philip Webb wrote:
> Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
> there have been no changes in my config files.
> 
> Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen) hidden
> & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
> I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.
> 
> Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
> even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the pager,
> the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid image
> when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse away.
> However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always.

I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.

> Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Chris Spackman]

On 2015/06/07 at 01:57pm, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150607 Philip Webb wrote:
 
> > Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?

> So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

I am a Fluxbox user, but haven't updated, so cannot comment. 

I have been using this for several weeks with no issues:

  version: Fluxbox 1.3.6-gentoo-r1 : (c) 2001-2015 Fluxbox Team

  eix fluxbox:
   [I] x11-wm/fluxbox
       Installed versions:  1.3.6-r1(10:56:38 AM 05/17/2015)(imlib
          nls slit toolbar truetype -bidi -vim-syntax -xinerama)

Sorry I cannot help. When I do upgrade (probably next week), I will
check for the behavior you found.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Mick]

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Hello Philip,

On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:
> 150607 Philip Webb wrote:
> > Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
> > there have been no changes in my config files.

Same here.


> > Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
> > hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
> > I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.

My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.


> > Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
> > even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
> > pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
> > image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
> > away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
> > always.

I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.  Do you still have the problem 
if you remove Fbpager?

Something I noticed is that the toolbar  will not show if hidden, until I move 
the cursor 1-2 inches or more from the right edge of the toolbar.  I have a 
clock on the right hand side and I need to come left well beyond it and into 
the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.  In any other position 
the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.  Now, if your Fbpager is where 
my clock happens to be (the right hand edge of the toolbar) then we have come 
across the same bug.  However, there is no flickering here.  The toolbar 
either shows up, or it does not.  So the flickering could be related to the 
canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.


> I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
> However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
> the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
> The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
> 
> > Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
> 
> So again, are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

PS. I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.  
Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.  
Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop 
and you should be pretty much at home with it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Philip Webb]

150607 Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:
>> Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
>> there have been no changes in my config files.
> Same here.
>> Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
>> hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
>> I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.
> My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.

So your experience is not directly relevant.

>> Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
>> even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
>> pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
>> image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
>> away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
>> always.
> I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.
> Do you still have the problem if you remove Fbpager?

Please read what I wrote (smile) ! 
"However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always" :
that is not the expected behaviour, ie what I get with 1.3.6-r1 ,
when moving the mouse over the toolbar area makes it appear.

> Something I noticed is that the toolbar will not show if hidden,
> until I move the cursor 1-2 inches or more from its right edge.
> I have a clock on the right hand side and need to come left well beyond it
> and into the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.

That shouldn't be happening : it doesn't happen for me with 1.3.6-r1 .

> In any other position the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.
> Now, if your Fbpager is where my clock happens to be
> -- the right hand edge of the toolbar --
> then we have come across the same bug.

It's to the left (please read what I wrote above)
& you are experiencing part of what's gone wrong with 1.3.7 ,
but not all of it :

> However, there is no flickering here :
> the toolbar either shows up or does not.  So the flickering
> could be related to the canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.

It's caused somehow by the presence of the pager.

>> I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
>> However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
>> the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
>> The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
>> Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
>> Are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?
> PS I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.  
> Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.  
> Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop 
> and you should be pretty much at home with it.

I've been a contented user of Fluxbox for some years,
so I hope I don't have to drop it.

It looks like a bug report is needed.  The Fluxbox WWW site warns
that 1.3.7 was released after  2 yr  break & may need lots of testing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Zhu Sha Zang]

On 06/07/2015 03:46 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150607 Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:
>>> Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
>>> there have been no changes in my config files.
>> Same here.
>>> Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
>>> hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
>>> I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.
>> My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.
> So your experience is not directly relevant.
>
>>> Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
>>> even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
>>> pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
>>> image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
>>> away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
>>> always.
>> I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.
>> Do you still have the problem if you remove Fbpager?
> Please read what I wrote (smile) !
> "However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always" :
> that is not the expected behaviour, ie what I get with 1.3.6-r1 ,
> when moving the mouse over the toolbar area makes it appear.
>
>> Something I noticed is that the toolbar will not show if hidden,
>> until I move the cursor 1-2 inches or more from its right edge.
>> I have a clock on the right hand side and need to come left well beyond it
>> and into the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.
> That shouldn't be happening : it doesn't happen for me with 1.3.6-r1 .
>
>> In any other position the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.
>> Now, if your Fbpager is where my clock happens to be
>> -- the right hand edge of the toolbar --
>> then we have come across the same bug.
> It's to the left (please read what I wrote above)
> & you are experiencing part of what's gone wrong with 1.3.7 ,
> but not all of it :
>
>> However, there is no flickering here :
>> the toolbar either shows up or does not.  So the flickering
>> could be related to the canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.
> It's caused somehow by the presence of the pager.
>
>>> I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
>>> However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
>>> the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
>>> The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
>>> Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
>>> Are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?
>> PS I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.
>> Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.
>> Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop
>> and you should be pretty much at home with it.
> I've been a contented user of Fluxbox for some years,
> so I hope I don't have to drop it.
>
> It looks like a bug report is needed.  The Fluxbox WWW site warns
> that 1.3.7 was released after  2 yr  break & may need lots of testing.
>
Have you tried to use something like:

exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log" to check what happening?

??

Regards

Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Philip Webb]

150608 Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
> Have you tried to use 'exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log"'
> to check what happening ?

Thanks for the suggestion : I tried it, but no log file appears.
I use 'startx' & put your line in  .xinitrc  in place of 'startfluxbox';
I also tried adding the log part to 'startfluxbox', but no improvement.

I plan to submit a bug, but log output mb useful to include there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

[Philip Webb]

150608 Philip Webb wrote:
> 150608 Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
>> Have you tried to use 'exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log"'
>> to check what happening ?
> Thanks for the suggestion : I tried it, but no log file appears.
> I use 'startx' & put your line in  .xinitrc  in place of 'startfluxbox';
> I also tried adding the log part to 'startfluxbox', but no improvement.

I have submitted Bug 551522 .

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