From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AC0138CD3 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2229FE09F0; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from naiad.kreativmedia.ch (naiad.kreativmedia.ch [80.74.152.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCB4FE09EA for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (146.228.1.85.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch [85.1.228.146]) by naiad.kreativmedia.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 225346AF0345 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:27:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 14:24:52 +0200 From: Guy-Laurent Subri To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer Message-ID: <20150608122452.GA10315@lennie.home> References: <20150608114704.2da5a784@thetick> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150608114704.2da5a784@thetick> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Archives-Salt: 1af8934d-ed8e-416f-a396-ae3bfe5d9350 X-Archives-Hash: 2832706c798814d4e43a2288a7456c63 Hi, I like to use msmtp. I actually never tried nullmailer, but msmtp seemd a great choice. For the queue "issue" I can redirect you to a document created by a Gentoo dev on mutt [0]. Guy-Laurent Subri [0] https://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/mail.html On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: >Hi list, > >As part of removing now superfluous server functionality on my desktop, I >replaced postfix with msmtp (and removed a bunch of other software). However, >the portage default for virtual/mta is nullmailer. (I also switched my laptop >from ssmtp to msmtp since ssmtp upstream has long been dead and has thus fallen >out of favour with Gentoo devs [0].) > >Now, my reasoning for choosing msmtp was that development seemed more active. >The last release of nullmailer was in 2013, while msmtp has had a release or >two this year already. However, the nullmailer repository [1] has shown a bit >of activity since the last release, though it looks fairly minor to me. > >However, the one thing that annoys me is that msmtp does not seem to have any >sort of queue [2], so if it can't deliver an email, it must be resent, which is >annoying for system emails. Now, I read that nullmailer has a queue (at both >[2] and [3]). > >So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp (or neither?), >and why? Is there anything that speaks against nullmailer, other than its >(seemingly) slow development? > >[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450812 >[1] https://github.com/bruceg/nullmailer/commits/master >[2] http://sourceforge.net/p/msmtp/mailman/message/649420/ >[3] http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer/ > >-- >Marc Joliet >-- >"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we >don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup