From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213B1138CD3 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7838E09C2; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 648EEE0963 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thetick ([93.181.44.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mbfyr-1YiqpH42QH-00J3ed for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 11:47:11 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:47:04 +0200 From: Marc Joliet To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer Message-ID: <20150608114704.2da5a784@thetick> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/kCSkiP_tZWqDHm.lXUKYZWR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:LItDjoVRcM9S2TLmF1GYOglrABPJ9aW4pWHxzLFUaaJ4B2gLzpA yTacUl7FtcDd0tPOQkJ+rhBCoTDvFvZ5T8iwXPBaVa8Zj59i7S4Af5Vw2+TO5CVpegIDvLk EmITgPNi26WsKAJvZ+3Xo9Tr/PtB8WdBpaTzU5W6RARwnw6cvnEg1DdgVTTSfNF5NL88BkV lG5zN1UmQXq3H+ZfiILug== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TPKddtERcmk=:PSB6nhW5X+UXDn7+9+XtJz M49p205DWFEFaajC7xkEufE9VdFYUos71k0S0+/H12FL3kM9rLvO0i7EN3LKx1xpek8sj69qA mVhg9HSyRdsd/JsGPuZvMPybEwaIHwlNqIccKsdDNLYeHY5kCWnbNCgZR85lhNY4QFvX754Jq GnLIs+IqjfkPBJqEaOsjqkPLuD7ARRdSKNjMUWMVHHQOmFZb6+uSg5AUQS7TE0GFQDEa6HPJl eMHyOyCGo7Qen4HHN2jhyBmwzlbSoUYAug78W0GV9nU9+Hc3WxFbKNbpM3+z7uOZthpJ83Edv TEPz/QfehivwepU2HYx0wEmQFEl41eUIPeKItxRY0dzbC2hcsa9ModrVlDVaGnbOFlCbiHEg7 adw/E1rgYaXpNJGzuE+gfGO14vg4gBT2gjJtB8Uubj27ws0WVZBfvQb4HdsDbnluZjFYA1zUj r1GeYU4fd7TqgBnJvDbMfbDu9C7L8sULtGi0mgmooubx6aY5KNaNDr6Sj8lhVmwICzOIWlW+4 DnPaagqm6XH73nZEzOKajpnN83NWG7Os9PTNuY/AtMOpafTQyX8Mq+nBZbBEK06WXD0P3ki9P w/P6FixYJWaS5F0LJr3HYaFegRmPU9Y3+Jwgx5T04hmW5gNqmX0X5r0tbwqgnn2ebf1v7tBjU /Nrf5u3kwmUGPcLN/X27BWBujXz5+65+39+zNPvLrVjNUCw== X-Archives-Salt: 7fbbb5b6-c38c-4770-ac0a-c1cf882fe3ed X-Archives-Hash: f861350baf6650239450643785818ed1 --Sig_/kCSkiP_tZWqDHm.lXUKYZWR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list, As part of removing now superfluous server functionality on my desktop, I replaced postfix with msmtp (and removed a bunch of other software). Howev= er, the portage default for virtual/mta is nullmailer. (I also switched my lap= top from ssmtp to msmtp since ssmtp upstream has long been dead and has thus fa= llen out of favour with Gentoo devs [0].) Now, my reasoning for choosing msmtp was that development seemed more activ= e. The last release of nullmailer was in 2013, while msmtp has had a release or two this year already. However, the nullmailer repository [1] has shown a = bit of activity since the last release, though it looks fairly minor to me. However, the one thing that annoys me is that msmtp does not seem to have a= ny sort of queue [2], so if it can't deliver an email, it must be resent, whic= h is annoying for system emails. Now, I read that nullmailer has a queue (at bo= th [2] and [3]). So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp (or neither= ?), and why? Is there anything that speaks against nullmailer, other than its (seemingly) slow development? [0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D450812 [1] https://github.com/bruceg/nullmailer/commits/master [2] http://sourceforge.net/p/msmtp/mailman/message/649420/ [3] http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer/ --=20 Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup --Sig_/kCSkiP_tZWqDHm.lXUKYZWR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVdWSdAAoJEL/Q5oYsiHj0SfcQAJqmRU0myZp8kU7XSMi9+Y/M iRTn9H050s70etVY364KmC/5OmM3OXtMi/kRZ7oa3RnRvuLBIG1pj8HdQHIOomnd IQjN3O8G7YvduX18uLsaLncAz6vHMBYxv7CC4MSNnI4yTPcPrxj0cLQlNrAmVg4Y rddcmzrFt/UnlvleqzpfYHUkCA2xiw3FiNmdcX3eBmLXaf2yO0fvrdYvNyVNUv/U NwoBd6L4xb9gvqrCkP/UtHnuoT2eWoFD5+EO2ZLr6yQ666Q13+UI1otzwgFROiCd Z2xJ4KBapO5QH175ySYq8iRkote8Cnj9zebjrapKoE4hPMTY5y2Rxz43NVsl8Gbz hQKUKFn3GzqSGF5WpcfhiEuSxfz7HEoHpsNr0b4DWw6GjM183rGl59nkx1pBi8Zj BysyjzdEejMy+1NH+fPAHx1mo6uNC/WLvbKkcQI+lDqiZjvoOhrv2/OFQCyuBrhO N5u1uej2HNoVXHsZZ3K5AMGVYdi99IxflPjYbTnoC4cmTyJAo953GaeocFM7u0jQ Yy4pBug1gJEhElzA5srnorKNdbbej18I2hyU3so4lxU+7/YUX2nWsVx8VbNNjk/s 3Sij4ewFYGQGrizeR1itSKjKzrSWkz9NNdolh/ch0hUHV5HeJ0an2cDxubV/pdRF +169aV+yH48ucysNp8eg =pa0K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/kCSkiP_tZWqDHm.lXUKYZWR--