From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA73B138CD8 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 19:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D420DE0964; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 19:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCA2EE0950 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 19:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wiga1 with SMTP id a1so57942625wig.0 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=NtK2DywOlDCCBdT9FZgHPjegFmDBJERELLZ0ANLWpGQ=; b=xloSr6CDcF5ClzMEhoHiMcs/v/A3XyXPXyKEQHN/iuPodfiPBx/aOEcs5dqVN1f+/4 eZcl/CA3QOGQnQ5TrG+0hGExNRfMm5mAEXzIq/5H8cGk/LWOml1Uxg7Sww7P18+z0YLQ XDYIFSXqlmvLNh8xYJaTdg/BaRs1/im95eVU3bN9GmdsDLdj6xbhGNzKESCoxup/zI3P HrUfC9KosSTVGzLUSGLwZC1/4NTOxCXqmCF1yf6RF6Jnxa9z4kP8Gs/cZUtObupokb7J tAe8q+e9m5OTAVjkaxkOIcZoAlmBr/8g187IB+BEEV1SBxDya5WRMDCiEyt3izGKehgR 0FmQ== X-Received: by 10.180.88.169 with SMTP id bh9mr56377797wib.6.1433445782499; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pf4sm2408416wjb.23.2015.06.04.12.23.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: is your metadata safe? Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:22:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.18.12-gentoo; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2130483.sEqCzFBZaS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201506042022.55571.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 4bb21c75-12df-40ff-ba36-f19e735001a9 X-Archives-Hash: dea6cb7b7778644fc01d91aa5a37dadf --nextPart2130483.sEqCzFBZaS Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 04 Jun 2015 18:07:04 James wrote: > Well, the "media" like to project that everything was fine, before Snowden > did his thing. I, like many with deep roots in communications beyond TCP/= IP > have known better for a long time. I was perusing some published documents > of an ILEC that wants me to do some work (a mesos cluster no less). Then I > ran across this document, by accident [1]. As I understand it from a cursory look, this document explains how unbundli= ng=20 can occur so that suppliers can provide internet services to consumers, usi= ng=20 a competitor's infrastructure. If anything, it tries to reverse the=20 oligopolistic cartel of ISPs that is so prevalent in the US among cable=20 providers. > So now that my privacy of "phone records" has been wrestled from the hands > of the NSA, and place with the Telco, conglomerates, boy why do I not feel > safer? Congress has assured me that my personal data is now safe? Due to a 40 year dogma of privatisation of public services, all this data w= as=20 always provided and managed by Telcos and private enterprises, on behalf of= =20 the NSA. Who did you think Snowden was working for? So the latest provisi= ons=20 pushed onto you by your government as something safer, can mean on= ly=20 one thing: same men, different trousers. Carry on, as you were lads! > "ICP" or Integrated Communications Provider is the jargon by which all > attempts to keep our personal data, personal, are completely circumvented. > Just read the patent, award makes not differnce, as these carrier databas= es > have already been compile with numerous net data bases, so our privacy is > already completely compromised. This I think refers to cross charging and management of users accounts to=20 provide ease of transfer between providers (and therefore facilitate=20 competition and better end user services/prices). I haven't read it in dep= th,=20 but this is what a quick scan of it tells me. > And folks in other countries, besides the good ole USA, your asses have > been "owned" for even longer..... Have you asked your senator how much $$$ is your government paying the secr= et=20 services of other governments to provide information on their own as well a= s=20 US citizens? > So I suggest we call have a shot or 2 of Tequila this weekend, get naked, > and party like you've got nothing left to hide; cause you don't! I think that strong encryption with good RNGs still works, if Snowden is to= be=20 believed. But ... I suspect this is only a matter of buying you some more= =20 time. > cheers mate! >=20 > James >=20 > [1] http://www.google.com/patents/US20010034627 =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2130483.sEqCzFBZaS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJVcKWPAAoJELAdA+zwE4YeYf0H/RFtgEsxDJe0/OJY7ROI7+dh vFL2qEzfeLi0+1beoSz5KMIONaEjCP2W5n3670T+/M/P4rnZKaUzRjm+Fpkv+r+k rtvaHmgkfoXhqz1bDAGGudHxNktNijWJxsPZ39gF4zAIvlUj8Av81PGlCYD0nkGs hE69GPeLFwVaqPUzF3ARq61niaut3ibF1lOa8vIxIJYpsU2hGjjgTgnKI53PHwpw lyRvq7TrUmMZXi4571dF3Ou4Sk7WolZHJaKomCZ/bZrrPVizjyZI0KnF4ZyTxWfJ fSCUcrYML7w7SSrs+21ulDdU7MHUHxIvl4HLFLYePtxicC9vyarjzzDrYVy2HeQ= =TajW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2130483.sEqCzFBZaS--