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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: General weirdness - a tale of woe.
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On Wednesday 27 May 2015 21:09:27 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:
> > Eselect news list 2015-3-28 lists "True multilib support on amd64"
> >=20
> > For me, I run a simple profile: [1] default/linux/amd64/13.0 *
> >=20
> > Because I run lxde and have experimented with several other minimalistic
> > desktops, including lxqt. Currently, I run lxde. If I emerge with the
> > --deep option, I get so much breakage that 3000 lines of scrollback is
> > not enough to get to the head of the problem. Many errors contain the
> > common string "abi_x86_32" which is central to the aforementioned news
> > item. I have read this news item many times, tried many ideas, and
> > still have this phantom problem. I can delete some packages had at
> > the update, hours to days, get it cleaned up to where -D works and a
> > couple of emerge --syncs later the problem reappears. Global update
> > without (-D) --deep are just fine.
> >=20
> >=20
> > I have no idea if this "phantom issue" relates to yours or not. I have
> > hesitated to post about it, because in a decade of gentoo usage (and
> > there have been some ruff patches to say the least) I have never
> > experienced a transient recurring problem like this. I think I need a
> > much longer version of that news item and some cook_book syntax to
> > fixing these (phantom) multilb issues on my amd64 systems that I am
> > experiencing.
> >=20
> > Some simple questions::
> >=20
> > 1. How do you test if indeed a system is multilib?
>=20
> It is, as you are not using a no-multilib profile.
>=20
> > 2. Can a system be change, readily, from multilib to not and then back?
>=20
> No.
>=20
> > 3. Is a more specific profile needed for one where you intend to
> > run only a minimalist (lxqt) desktop (than what I listed above)?
>=20
> No, that is a fairly basic profile.
>=20
> > Comments and guidance are warmly appreciated.
> > Peter I'm not trying to hijack your thread, but enquire as to
> > commonality.
>=20
> Your problem is different but has been covered in previous threads, as
> well as the news item. You could add ABI_X86=3D"32 64" to make.conf, but
> that won't fit in with your desire for minimalism. So you need to run
> emerge with --autounmask-write then run etc-update or equivalent to apply
> the changes to package.use.
Only to add that maintainers are regularly updating packages and this is wh=
y=20
you may find that suddenly new packages require USE=3D"abi_x86_32", when a =
week=20
ago they didn't.
It is worth noting that one multilib box of mine has not asked me (yet) to =
set =20
USE=3D"abi_x86_32" on any of its packages, while my laptop is regularly=20
prompting me to do so. I have concluded that the former has no packages wh=
ich=20
are using 32bit code, while the latter does (I know that at least Skype is =
a=20
culprit).
So in extremis you could I guess purge any 32bit coded packages from your P=
C=20
and the "abi_x86_32" prompts should leave you alone. I shouldn't forget to=
=20
add your usual disclaimer: "YMMV" :-)
=2D-=20
Regards,
Mick
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