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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n3sm1518940wix.1.2015.05.05.05.06.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 May 2015 05:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 13:05:55 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.18.11-gentoo; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <553F474E.4040101@gmail.com> <20150505123338.5a8d4ad3@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20150505123338.5a8d4ad3@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1452804.x1r2trg3qj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201505051306.15821.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 6d249f05-f00f-472a-a046-637e8d1239d0 X-Archives-Hash: bec7f4f71188ba9d7b528ed7ca94faf4 --nextPart1452804.x1r2trg3qj Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday 05 May 2015 12:33:38 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2015 06:56:20 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I don't know about btrfs, seems like it's still in a testing-phase so > > > i'm not touching it yet. > >=20 > > My understanding is that both zfs and btrfs on linux are fairly > > experimental. The codebase for zfs is much more mature in general, > > though its integration on Linux is recent. >=20 > It's also based on an older version of ZFS, so we can expect stability to > improve where necessary, but little in the way of new features > (unless that has changed since I last used it and Sun have open sourced a > later release). >=20 > > The codebase for btrfs > > changes rapidly, with quite a few regressions. I've never > > irrecoverably lost data on btrfs, but it wouldn't be my first choice > > for a production environment unless I basically did my own QC on the > > kernel. However, all my important data is on btrfs nonetheless (with > > a full backup to ext4 daily right now). >=20 > I have a similar approach, although with duplicity backups to a file > server. I have had a couple of problems with btrfs on my laptop, > connected with unclean shutdowns. I didn't lose any data but the repair > process took a *long* time. During a backup of a home directory I noticed loads of Chromium and Firefox= =20 crash/recovery files being copied over. However, I don't know if this is a= =20 btrfs problem, or the fact that I had to forcefully shut down KDE once or=20 twice recently, because the desktop would not logout/shutdown normally. The fsck which ran when the machine rebooted did not revealed any problems.= =20 Is there a different recommended way for checking for fs errors? =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1452804.x1r2trg3qj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAABCAAGBQJVSLI3AAoJELAdA+zwE4Yep8MH/R4NdaegMLI7v4bFDHXhPlQY J7F87sZ7N+f+OYKU0++HHM3HQ/ywkd9IFT4IVQrcuuEdqaZM9Jhxjq1zci3B5M4P rKxoRz9EgRySZJhTKlXjWPWQZcmpy5+8o9DO+0ZTq7E/0NYFzQKGjopTaTS9vJUB WhE5ZnuSH6ao3RrZKRW8+WCXHHTJ5xR9bDCIRddF8uw4uCc+htNzFQRPsyyJV4/g T2RCfozGuMf4ROQA8uh+DHA1eOQxL8wwag/7XsZzQhZ3nCR762BKpQ2f5SDEeysl ilAGzCT4QI/uklXE6JBS/3UsQUDmGh+nZlDmLtmAZ6W+RwcIPwiyUFlqXdl3X+U= =rsmv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1452804.x1r2trg3qj--