From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD21138C48 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 03:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C51CE08F2; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 03:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E75DE08A0 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 03:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiDhs-0000H9-Kn for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:09:40 +0200 Received: from wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net ([174.76.82.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:09:40 +0200 Received: from boxcars by wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:09:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed! Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 22:09:34 -0500 Organization: none Message-ID: <20150414220934.3f89a04c@sepulchrave.remarqs> References: <55292E11.9040202@verizon.net> <2227740.m4amG7ENkq@andromeda> <20150412122356.5cadb5d4@sepulchrave.remarqs> <1548532.LqqDBuMcQi@andromeda> <20150412201552.3e0aca16@sepulchrave.remarqs> <552B1AE0.5030507@alectenharmsel.com> <20150412203817.0cd1775e@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20150413085157.293dfb87@digimed.co.uk> <20150413225158.48b9c0f9@sepulchrave.remarqs> <20150414084701.28ae6332@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.27; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: ff526497-8afe-48d4-ba08-a98133f96911 X-Archives-Hash: 0016d89dbc05c401d92f727852e819a8 On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:47:01 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:51:58 -0500, »Q« wrote: > > > > > How can I find out whether the profile is setting those > > > > variables? > > > > > > By removing USE="-*". At the moment it doesn't matter which > > > profile you use or what it sets as you are then telling portage > > > to ignore all its settings, even the critical ones. > > > > I'm getting conflicting info on this. Do profiles really only set > > USE flags or do they do something else as well? (Or does USE="-*" > > affect things *other* than USE?) > > Things like PYTHON_TARGETS, X86_ABI and VIDEO_CARDS are implemented as > USE variables, so yes, -* clobbers them too. Thanks. > A lot more complicated if you have to follow a mailing list just to > keep your system working. You have essentially put your system into a > firefighting mode where you have to deal with each change as it breaks > things. I'd be reading this list anyway. The time I spend heading off and/or dealing with breakage due to *- is negligible, certainly nothing like being in constant firefighting mode. I guess I've spent more time in this thread, in which my system is neither broken nor in danger of breaking, than I've spent on problems due to *- over the past five years. I don't want to advocate for *-. I don't recommend it to anybody. I don't particularly want to argue about how good/bad/ugly it is with anybody, but it's it's tough not to argue when people are telling me I'm causing myself problems and I'm not seeing any such problems.