[gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Joseph]

Will "nomachine" talk to "nxserver-freenx"
I've installed "nxserver-freenx" on Gentoo but on the other end I have "nomachine" running on ubuntu.
I couldn't find/install freenx on ubuntu.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Guillaume Poulin]

When I was using it back in ~2008, it was working. However, freenx
seems to be an abandoned project, no update since 2008
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/freenx.berlios/files/?source=navbar).
ArchWiki suggests to use x2go instead
(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FreeNX).

2015-02-10 10:49 GMT+08:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> Will "nomachine" talk to "nxserver-freenx"
> I've installed "nxserver-freenx" on Gentoo but on the other end I have
> "nomachine" running on ubuntu.
> I couldn't find/install freenx on ubuntu.
>
> --
> Joseph
>

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Joseph]

On 02/10/15 11:01, Guillaume Poulin wrote:
>When I was using it back in ~2008, it was working. However, freenx
>seems to be an abandoned project, no update since 2008
>(http://sourceforge.net/projects/freenx.berlios/files/?source=navbar).
>ArchWiki suggests to use x2go instead
>(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FreeNX).
>
>2015-02-10 10:49 GMT+08:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
>> Will "nomachine" talk to "nxserver-freenx"
>> I've installed "nxserver-freenx" on Gentoo but on the other end I have
>> "nomachine" running on ubuntu.
>> I couldn't find/install freenx on ubuntu.

I'm still using "nxserver-freenx" and "nxclient" they are working OK with XFCE
and they are still valid packages.

Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
Is x2go stable on XFCE4?

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Rich Freeman]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still using "nxserver-freenx" and "nxclient" they are working OK with
> XFCE
> and they are still valid packages.
>
> Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
> Is x2go stable on XFCE4?
>

I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
aren't really many out there.

It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Joseph]

On 02/10/15 09:07, Rich Freeman wrote:
>On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm still using "nxserver-freenx" and "nxclient" they are working OK with
>> XFCE
>> and they are still valid packages.
>>
>> Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
>> Is x2go stable on XFCE4?
>>
>
>I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
>to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
>upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
>some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
>using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
>aren't really many out there.
>
>It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
>like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
>experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.

How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.

For me "nxserver-freenx" still works perfectly on Gentoo but I couldn't get nxclient to work on xubuntu.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Rich Freeman]

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.
>

Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.

So, NX with client-side rendering works just like VNC, which makes it
horrible over a WAN.  However, it still works.


-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Matthew Marlowe]

> Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
> just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
> application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
> your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.
>

I thought the NX 4.0 packages (free and commercial) have a runtime
option to run either in 1) VNC type mode (default) or 2) light-mode
(optimized for desktop and non graphics intensive).  This was
discussed in one of the nomachine hosted forums.

I'm homeschooling my kids and wanted to give them access to
mathematica/system modeler/and the full set of interesting apps
installed here on the home gentoo server.  I did end up purchasing the
4-user linux terminal server option here for only roughly $125/yr.  I
tested x2go first and while it performed fine for a single app but had
too many issues in desktop mode or with overall usability.

Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine <--> nxserver-freenx

[Rich Freeman]

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Matthew Marlowe
<matt@professionalsysadmin.com> wrote:
>> Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
>> just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
>> application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
>> your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.
>>
>
> I thought the NX 4.0 packages (free and commercial) have a runtime
> option to run either in 1) VNC type mode (default) or 2) light-mode
> (optimized for desktop and non graphics intensive).  This was
> discussed in one of the nomachine hosted forums.
>

I'm not sure what the point would be in basically paying for VNC.  The
whole point of NX is that it modifies the X protocol so that there is
less back-and-forth between the local server and remote clients by
acting as a local client to the server and a remote server to the
clients.  But, when clients are just sending huge blobs of images, all
it can do is transmit them.

-- 
Rich