[gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my motherboard card and input sound from USB?

I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut playback from my sound card on motherboard.
At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[meino.cramer]

Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 06:18]:
> How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my 
> motherboard card and input sound from USB?
> 
> I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut 
> playback from my sound card on motherboard.
> At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
> 
> -- 
> Joseph
> 

Hi Joseph,

try to include the correct kernel modules ;)

Best
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 06:21, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 06:18]:
>> How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
>> motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>>
>> I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
>> playback from my sound card on motherboard.
>> At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
>>
>> --
>> Joseph
>>
>
>Hi Joseph,
>
>try to include the correct kernel modules ;)
>
>Best
>Meino

For which device? I'm using kernel 3.10
My motherboard has a sound chip included so that is what I'm using for playback I would like to use sound input form USB mic. on a camera.
It seems to me skype for Linux is not recognizing different inputs for sound; the only option I have is pulse audio.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[meino.cramer]

Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 07:16]:
> On 12/22/14 06:21, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> >Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 06:18]:
> >>How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
> >>motherboard card and input sound from USB?
> >>
> >>I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
> >>playback from my sound card on motherboard.
> >>At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
> >>
> >>--
> >>Joseph
> >>
> >
> >Hi Joseph,
> >
> >try to include the correct kernel modules ;)
> >
> >Best
> >Meino
> 
> For which device? I'm using kernel 3.10
> My motherboard has a sound chip included so that is what I'm using for 
> playback I would like to use sound input form USB mic. on a camera.
> It seems to me skype for Linux is not recognizing different inputs for 
> sound; the only option I have is pulse audio.
> 
> -- 
> Joseph
> 

Hi Joseph,

...you have to share more informations about you hardware. No one is 
able to help you, if the information is only
"I have a motherboard with an audio chip and a microphone which I 
want to use".

Best
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:

> How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
> motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>
> I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut playback
> from my sound card on motherboard.
> At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
>
> --
> Joseph
>
> What's the output of 'equery -q u skype'?

Run the alsamiser command line shown below on your card ID, and make sure
you don't have anything muted there.

alsamixer -c 0

# '-c' sound card ID. You can find the correct IDs by running 'aplay -l',
which comes from media-sound/alsa-utils.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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Oops!
I meant to say 's/alsamiser/alsamixer/'.

Sorry about that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 17:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>   On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Joseph <[1]syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
>     motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>     I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
>     playback from my sound card on motherboard.
>     At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
>     --
>     Joseph
>
>   What's the output of 'equery -q u skype'?
>   Run the alsamiser command line shown below on your card ID, and make
>   sure you don't have anything muted there.
>   alsamixer -c 0
>   # '-c' sound card ID. You can find the correct IDs by running 'aplay
>   -l', which comes from media-sound/alsa-utils.

equery -q u skype
-apulse
-pax_kernel
+pulseaudio

By default skype is using "pulseaudio" (poor choice) and it will not let you select input device for sound.
The solution that works is to emerge "pavucontrol" Pulse Audio Volume Control

Under "tab" Input Devices in Pulse Audio Volume Control there should be entry for a web-cam; in my case it is Web-Cam C270
On the right there is a button: "Set as Fallback" it should be enabled.

The skype will not show in Control USB audio input option but the call sound with skype will work.

Question:
How do you set alsamixer default card?
By default it goes to pulseaudio whey I type "alsamixer" 
I want to set it to "0" as default.


-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 07:50, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 07:16]:
>> On 12/22/14 06:21, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>> >Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 06:18]:
>> >>How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
>> >>motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>> >>
>> >>I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
>> >>playback from my sound card on motherboard.
>> >>At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Joseph
>> >>
>> >
>> >Hi Joseph,
>> >
>> >try to include the correct kernel modules ;)
>> >
>> >Best
>> >Meino
>>
>> For which device? I'm using kernel 3.10
>> My motherboard has a sound chip included so that is what I'm using for
>> playback I would like to use sound input form USB mic. on a camera.
>> It seems to me skype for Linux is not recognizing different inputs for
>> sound; the only option I have is pulse audio.
>>
>> --
>> Joseph
>>
>
>Hi Joseph,
>
>...you have to share more informations about you hardware. No one is
>able to help you, if the information is only
>"I have a motherboard with an audio chip and a microphone which I
>want to use".
>
>Best
>Meino

From lspci, it shows me I have audio:
Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)

In kernel I have set:

CONFIG_MEDIA_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_MEDIA_CAMERA_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_MEDIA_USB_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_MEDIA_PCI_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_MEDIA_SUBDRV_AUTOSELECT=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=y



-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/22/14 17:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>
>    On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Joseph <[1]syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
>>     motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>>     I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
>>     playback from my sound card on motherboard.
>>     At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".
>>     --
>>     Joseph
>>
>>   What's the output of 'equery -q u skype'?
>>   Run the alsamiser command line shown below on your card ID, and make
>>   sure you don't have anything muted there.
>>   alsamixer -c 0
>>   # '-c' sound card ID. You can find the correct IDs by running 'aplay
>>   -l', which comes from media-sound/alsa-utils.
>>
>
> equery -q u skype
> -apulse
> -pax_kernel
> +pulseaudio
>
> By default skype is using "pulseaudio" (poor choice) and it will not let
> you select input device for sound.
> The solution that works is to emerge "pavucontrol" Pulse Audio Volume
> Control
>
> Under "tab" Input Devices in Pulse Audio Volume Control there should be
> entry for a web-cam; in my case it is Web-Cam C270
> On the right there is a button: "Set as Fallback" it should be enabled.
>
> The skype will not show in Control USB audio input option but the call
> sound with skype will work.
>
> Question:
> How do you set alsamixer default card?
> By default it goes to pulseaudio whey I type "alsamixer" I want to set it
> to "0" as default.
>
>
> --
> Joseph
>
> What's the output of 'aplay -l'?

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 19:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>     equery -q u skype
>     -apulse
>     -pax_kernel
>     +pulseaudio
>     By default skype is using "pulseaudio" (poor choice) and it will not
>     let you select input device for sound.
>     The solution that works is to emerge "pavucontrol" Pulse Audio
>     Volume Control
>     Under "tab" Input Devices in Pulse Audio Volume Control there should
>     be entry for a web-cam; in my case it is Web-Cam C270
>     On the right there is a button: "Set as Fallback" it should be
>     enabled.
>     The skype will not show in Control USB audio input option but the
>     call sound with skype will work.
>     Question:
>     How do you set alsamixer default card?
>     By default it goes to pulseaudio whey I type "alsamixer" I want to
>     set it to "0" as default.
>     --
>     Joseph
>
>   What's the output of 'aplay -l'?

Here it is.

aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/22/14 19:58, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>
>>     equery -q u skype
>>     -apulse
>>     -pax_kernel
>>     +pulseaudio
>>     By default skype is using "pulseaudio" (poor choice) and it will not
>>     let you select input device for sound.
>>     The solution that works is to emerge "pavucontrol" Pulse Audio
>>     Volume Control
>>     Under "tab" Input Devices in Pulse Audio Volume Control there should
>>     be entry for a web-cam; in my case it is Web-Cam C270
>>     On the right there is a button: "Set as Fallback" it should be
>>     enabled.
>>     The skype will not show in Control USB audio input option but the
>>     call sound with skype will work.
>>     Question:
>>     How do you set alsamixer default card?
>>     By default it goes to pulseaudio whey I type "alsamixer" I want to
>>     set it to "0" as default.
>>     --
>>     Joseph
>>
>>   What's the output of 'aplay -l'?
>>
>
> Here it is.
>
> aplay -l
> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>  Subdevices: 1/1
>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>
>
> --
> Joseph
>
>
Good. Now try running 'alsamixer -c0', and toggle muting for different
channels and see if that makes a difference.  You may want to try doing
that for card1 as well, should card0 fail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 21:07, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>
>     Here it is.
>     aplay -l
>     **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>     card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>     Â Subdevices: 1/1
>     Â Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>     --
>     Joseph
>
>   Good. Now try running 'alsamixer -c0', and toggle muting for different
>   channels and see if that makes a difference.  You may want to try
>   doing that for card1 as well, should card0 fail.

Yes, alsamixer -c0
But I want "0" to be default.  When I type "alsamixer" it should automatically pop us as default. Which file do I modify?

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Poison BL.]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, alsamixer -c0
> But I want "0" to be default.  When I type "alsamixer" it should
> automatically pop us as default. Which file do I modify?
>
> --
> Joseph
>

I believe that's a side effect of alsa-lib being set to something
other than card 0 as the default device (which pulse likes to do), you
can either look for the relevant lines in /etc/asound.conf for the
system wide settings, or handle it on the user level in
$HOME/.asoundrc ... and the Alsa project themselves have the best docs
on those files here:
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 14:39, Poison BL. wrote:
>On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, alsamixer -c0
>> But I want "0" to be default.  When I type "alsamixer" it should
>> automatically pop us as default. Which file do I modify?
>>
>> --
>> Joseph
>>
>
>I believe that's a side effect of alsa-lib being set to something
>other than card 0 as the default device (which pulse likes to do), you
>can either look for the relevant lines in /etc/asound.conf for the
>system wide settings, or handle it on the user level in
>$HOME/.asoundrc ... and the Alsa project themselves have the best docs
>on those files here:
>http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
>
>-- 
>Poison [BLX]
>Joshua M. Murphy

Yes, I was reading about /etc/asound.conf 
but I don't have that file, should I create one.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Joseph]

On 12/22/14 13:12, Joseph wrote:
>On 12/22/14 14:39, Poison BL. wrote:
>>On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, alsamixer -c0
>>> But I want "0" to be default.  When I type "alsamixer" it should
>>> automatically pop us as default. Which file do I modify?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>
>>I believe that's a side effect of alsa-lib being set to something
>>other than card 0 as the default device (which pulse likes to do), you
>>can either look for the relevant lines in /etc/asound.conf for the
>>system wide settings, or handle it on the user level in
>>$HOME/.asoundrc ... and the Alsa project themselves have the best docs
>>on those files here:
>>http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
>>
>>--
>>Poison [BLX]
>>Joshua M. Murphy
>
>Yes, I was reading about /etc/asound.conf
>but I don't have that file, should I create one.
>
>-- 
>Joseph

It seems to me I'm stuck with pulseaudio if I want to use skype.
Skype will not work with anything else.  I changed the default sound in alsamixer in /etc/asound.conf to my card "0" SB and skype stopped working :-/

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE setting sound input from USB, playback from motherboard chip.

[Daniel Frey]

On 12/22/2014 09:56 AM, Joseph wrote:
> On 12/22/14 07:50, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>> Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 07:16]:
>>> On 12/22/14 06:21, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
>>> >Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> [14-12-22 06:18]:
>>> >>How to configure alsamixer and or XFCE4 to get playback from my
>>> >>motherboard card and input sound from USB?
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm trying to configure skype for input sound from USB cam abut
>>> >>playback from my sound card on motherboard.
>>> >>At the moment the only option I have is "pulse audio".

Well sure, Skype as of v4.3 requires pulseaudio.

> 
> From lspci, it shows me I have audio:
> Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF116 High Definition Audio Controller
> (rev a1)
> 
> In kernel I have set:
> 
> CONFIG_MEDIA_SUPPORT=y
> CONFIG_MEDIA_CAMERA_SUPPORT=y
> CONFIG_MEDIA_USB_SUPPORT=y
> CONFIG_MEDIA_PCI_SUPPORT=y
> CONFIG_MEDIA_SUBDRV_AUTOSELECT=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA=y
> 
> 
> 

That's for your onboard sound, what about kernel drivers for the USB device?

Also, forcing it to use ALSA will definitely not work with Skype as it
requires pulseaudio, as you've found out. You have to set up pulseaudio
to do all your audio processing or nothing will work.

I don't use Skype, but google even shows an entry on the gentoo wiki
detailing all these issues:

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Skype

It even was a workaround for non-pulseaudio users.

Google tells me Skype problems are pretty common, there are problems and
solutions on the web already.

Dan