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* [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
@ 2014-12-04 18:49 Joseph
  2014-12-04 19:15 ` thegeezer
  2014-12-04 19:30 ` J.  Roeleveld
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Joseph @ 2014-12-04 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7 shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
I think, I need to enable "CONFIG_NTFS_FS" in kernel?

In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel as well, am I correct?

-- 
Joseph


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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-04 18:49 [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS Joseph
@ 2014-12-04 19:15 ` thegeezer
  2014-12-04 19:27   ` Joseph
  2014-12-04 20:21   ` Neil Bothwick
  2014-12-04 19:30 ` J.  Roeleveld
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: thegeezer @ 2014-12-04 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 04/12/14 18:49, Joseph wrote:
> I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
> shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
> I think, I need to enable "CONFIG_NTFS_FS" in kernel?
no just cifs
>
> In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
> as well, am I correct?
>
yes


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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-04 19:15 ` thegeezer
@ 2014-12-04 19:27   ` Joseph
  2014-12-04 20:21   ` Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Joseph @ 2014-12-04 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 12/04/14 19:15, thegeezer wrote:
>On 04/12/14 18:49, Joseph wrote:
>> I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
>> shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
>> I think, I need to enable "CONFIG_NTFS_FS" in kernel?
>no just cifs
>>
>> In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
>> as well, am I correct?
>>
>yes

You are correct, but I think I only need NTFS in Kernel if I want to mount USB stick on Linux amd read/wrote to it.
I got around and used VB Windows 7 to format USB to NTFS and transfer the files from Linux to UBS via shared folder.

-- 
Joseph


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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-04 18:49 [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS Joseph
  2014-12-04 19:15 ` thegeezer
@ 2014-12-04 19:30 ` J.  Roeleveld
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: J.  Roeleveld @ 2014-12-04 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 4 December 2014 19:49:35 CET, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just installed windows 7 in VB and would like to mount windows 7
>shares (folder) via samba on Linux.
>I think, I need to enable "CONFIG_NTFS_FS" in kernel?


No. CIFS and install Samba.

>In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
>as well, am I correct?

No. Fuse support and install ntfs3g.

--
Joost

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-04 19:15 ` thegeezer
  2014-12-04 19:27   ` Joseph
@ 2014-12-04 20:21   ` Neil Bothwick
  2014-12-05 16:11     ` Matti Nykyri
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2014-12-04 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +0000, thegeezer wrote:

> > In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
> > as well, am I correct?
> >  
> yes
> 

You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
with just a kernel driver.

-- 
Neil Bothwick

Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!

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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-04 20:21   ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2014-12-05 16:11     ` Matti Nykyri
  2014-12-05 23:16       ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Matti Nykyri @ 2014-12-05 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

> On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +0000, thegeezer wrote:
> 
>>> In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
>>> as well, am I correct?
>> yes
> 
> You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
> instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
> with just a kernel driver.

Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.

-- 
-Matti

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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-05 16:11     ` Matti Nykyri
@ 2014-12-05 23:16       ` Mick
  2014-12-07 14:00         ` Marc Joliet
  2014-12-07 23:24         ` Marc Stürmer
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2014-12-05 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:11:26 Matti Nykyri wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +0000, thegeezer wrote:
> >>> In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
> >>> as well, am I correct?
> >> 
> >> yes
> > 
> > You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
> > instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
> > with just a kernel driver.
> 
> Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
> directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.

This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.

Just mentioned in passing that the ntfs in-kernel driver is really good for 
recovering corrupted NTFS partitions.  I tried the same with ntfs-3g and it 
couldn't read it.  The kernel driver had no problem doing so.  YMMV.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-05 23:16       ` Mick
@ 2014-12-07 14:00         ` Marc Joliet
  2014-12-07 23:24         ` Marc Stürmer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Marc Joliet @ 2014-12-07 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Am Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:16:37 +0000
schrieb Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>:

> On Friday 05 Dec 2014 16:11:26 Matti Nykyri wrote:
> > > On Dec 4, 2014, at 22:21, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:15:07 +0000, thegeezer wrote:
> > >>> In order to format the USB stick to NTFS I need this option in kernel
> > >>> as well, am I correct?
> > >> 
> > >> yes
> > > 
> > > You're probably better off not using the in-kernel NTFS and using ntfs-3g
> > > instead, which also includes mkfs.ntfs. You can't format a filesystem
> > > with just a kernel driver.
> > 
> > Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
> > directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.
> 
> This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.
> 
> Just mentioned in passing that the ntfs in-kernel driver is really good for 
> recovering corrupted NTFS partitions.  I tried the same with ntfs-3g and it 
> couldn't read it.  The kernel driver had no problem doing so.  YMMV.

In that vein: a couple of years ago I rescued data from a neighbours Windows 7
drive with ddrescue and, because ddrescue was "stuck" at the last 0.x percent,
ntfsck, which was part of the ntfsprogs package at the time, and (I think) was
already being developed as part of ntfs3g.

I was pleasantly surprised that it worked.

-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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* Re: [gentoo-user] samba and window 7 NTFS
  2014-12-05 23:16       ` Mick
  2014-12-07 14:00         ` Marc Joliet
@ 2014-12-07 23:24         ` Marc Stürmer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Marc Stürmer @ 2014-12-07 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Am 06.12.2014 um 00:16 schrieb Mick:

>> Same opinoin here. The in-kernel driver is only good for reading files and
>> directories. If anything else is needed use ntfs3g.
>
> This is right, ntfs-3g is a safe way of accessing NTFS from Linux.

Actually, while there is a NTFS-kernel driver, this driver is mostly 
stable only for reading files, but not writing files.

If you need to use NTFS on a regular basis under Linux, you want to use 
the FUSE ntfs-3g. It is far more advanced and far more stable than the 
kernel driver.


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2014-12-05 16:11     ` Matti Nykyri
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