From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389E8138A6C for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0156E0943; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53BCAE0909 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:46:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z12so10623492wgg.15 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:46:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=1oX2tR0IxRUTPzqvYCN2Zg1a1K64e97w4E9KkloCUd0=; b=bxymKGBVAN89XXHr7301DbGdVfcoaWm+rKIm7sDa+24kQbksxAvk+RWTh6+OsF0Rtq u4ZxMdJWjcbFmekjJiFYcrI2Daq5BETwNq/KdQA0yIlI+2zfcznKLiSlWwj3DaY1BmFz wQrB0XD1ksAN+HEP4IKF93h6gJ0OjPWhbVNdN4GIdiM5wVDJ+tm0yQB6YVVohVpz1rHw EWYTcKYBKDcJvSZoHYMYFcekzhkd3WfrbpXRuCFZ2e/+6s/urA1gtaHrDKdMpbzSISDi xfXYQxX9yYW9HUy83RzPMj+v+pzL2VCt4Axi7rvfq82UBrfkR6JhwA74RsZjpEFQS7bi 3XdA== X-Received: by 10.180.8.193 with SMTP id t1mr42991744wia.15.1416340013139; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from asterix ([91.233.13.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id he3sm57087529wjc.15.2014.11.18.11.46.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:46:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:47:12 +0100 From: Michael Mair-Keimberger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's Message-ID: <20141118194712.GA5911@asterix> References: <20141117210109.GA16054@asterix> <20141117215504.GB3253@asterix> <20141117221447.5546f1e9@digimed.co.uk> <201411180646.02886.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20141118074644.GA1654@nemesis> <20141118084105.0dfa7551@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20141118084105.0dfa7551@digimed.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Archives-Salt: 0fdd13d5-4872-4563-b045-40f15684339b X-Archives-Hash: 43f2e91406915bf92cd52cc2a0a1f030 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 08:41:05AM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:46:45 +1100, wraeth wrote: >=20 > > > Interestingly, how do you remove an binary package using portage when > > > you no longer need it? Using 'rm -i ' manually? =20 > >=20 > > The `eclean` utility from app-portage/gentoolkit can do this for you (as > > well as maintaining your distfiles directory). >=20 > I didn't think eclean could handle individual packages? They are just > files, so rm is fine. >=20 > > There's nothing overly special about it, though, so if you feel the need > > you can just `rm` files (though eclean is better). >=20 > Beware of eclean if you use a shared $DISTDIR (or a shared $PKGDIR) if > you have computers with the same architecture and settings). eclean run n > one computer may remove files wanted by others on the network. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Neil Bothwick >=20 > There is always one more imbecile than you counted on. Thanks for clarification! So far I couldn't reproduce my "problem" anymore and I think I just made a wrong observation. Initially I asked because I was pretty sure I had a binary package of traceroute-2.0.18 which I believe were deleted after I upgraded to traceroute-2.0.21. However, I did some tests and it seems traceroute was the only example I could find were this happen and now I'm not even sure if I ever had an binary package of traceroute-2.0.18. Here is also a brief explanation of what I'm actually trying to achieve: A few weeks ago I set up another gentoo system on a rather old system (core2duo/4gb ram/1TB storage). Since this one should be just a computer for toying and trying around I thought about to put rootfs on a lvm=20 partition so that I can easily clone the whole system. This works flawless. With a little nice script I've wrote myself I can easily clone/delete/backup/restore complete system's in minutes, which is why I already have 6 different systems. - gentoo_base - gentoo_cinnamon - gentoo_gnome (with systemd) - gentoo_kde - gentoo_kde_testing - gentoo_lxqt I guess the names are self-explaining.=20 Moreover, I also had the idea to share similar packages across these systems. This would mean, if I already installed xorg on gentoo_cinnamon, I don't have to build it again on gentoo_kde. In this case binary packages are a big win. Only packages with different use flags would be rebuild. It's especially handy on packages like firefox, chromium or libreoffice. :) After I though old binaries were deleted I was eagerly to find a solution for that, since it would make my setup less practical. After all I should have checked other packages more carefully before=20 asking stupid questions, but laziness lead me to my initial mail... Anyway: Older packages are kept, so everything seems to work as expected. I've also checked for rm/elcean in cron and other places were it could run automatically but I couldn't find anything. I also tested on different systems with different packages. No problems so far. I'll keep an eye on it, but I guess there wasn't really a problem. --=20 greetings Michael Mair-Keimberger --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUa6JAAAoJEEle3Ga+Q7MDKTIP/ioAVoni+iPjbr/MTh015TH3 2Aov4zxYj4BJW7TbzqJhG1Outzd3Xt/6gJG0739BGQmVPFwW3WOwTjRO34mjLfaq 9kg2I2oJrq+X9PLCeM0fQwAUyfVlFfRju5xnwE1RrtNnxvPekLqijRrUTXB/VbK7 VfAXHYExxkZQnZ5hHCLXcpVHgHR5KGeI8+3wyHZs32XedjQ+xZKVHnqHAFDi1xeE Xh7F2DR4ObetnyZm2+ei8XlV7Mv807XF3kk0dDZBJM42Gw3iVzrtvuwnPcZbLgof WUsNFA9dSfJIMkBlG9oE0LejLMicjrnsbnjca+soQSucKiYGJlT7r1CB7OhvBl5U IdnwuxPR2bSmGVvY8V6quyNc9DAcaKOvBJT/eJoqG6R6Fq9SjXmmkYtA/k+TBlLI Vg9M/lPvAEvgAdVDvATFaq6XHz6IjJxAdS/YJ3j667b0xqjSTJaAKnsvZ4S7mD0p trwTFUU+v6MGP5S2MdMf/B6J21eEOd5mEYjJZc3OqBOBhvEl/aIMtvOob9Y6i6oq Osi7XVMBN7HMVxv5GybJgBcLmPWLmHB7xO4agCVzMa/XM5k4yFu1RsGp9IUyrvFq xXSTYEnl9JcU3G6jj4eonA6SqXfmnky7ViWnmS8la+bouLzJNvDHXle9ObprHo4R 4MT80ub1H25ttD8A/iot =xa0G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG--