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From: Michael Mair-Keimberger <m.mairkeimberger@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] question about binhost's
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:47:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141118194712.GA5911@asterix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141118084105.0dfa7551@digimed.co.uk>

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 08:41:05AM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:46:45 +1100, wraeth wrote:
> 
> > > Interestingly, how do you remove an binary package using portage when
> > > you no longer need it?  Using 'rm -i <package>' manually?  
> > 
> > The `eclean` utility from app-portage/gentoolkit can do this for you (as
> > well as maintaining your distfiles directory).
> 
> I didn't think eclean could handle individual packages? They are just
> files, so rm is fine.
> 
> > There's nothing overly special about it, though, so if you feel the need
> > you can just `rm` files (though eclean is better).
> 
> Beware of eclean if you use a shared $DISTDIR (or a shared $PKGDIR) if
> you have computers with the same architecture and settings). eclean run n
> one computer may remove files wanted by others on the network.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Neil Bothwick
> 
> There is always one more imbecile than you counted on.

Thanks for clarification!

So far I couldn't reproduce my "problem" anymore and I think I just made
a wrong observation.
Initially I asked because I was pretty sure I had a binary package of
traceroute-2.0.18 which I believe were deleted after I upgraded to
traceroute-2.0.21.
However, I did some tests and it seems traceroute was the only example I
could find were this happen and now I'm not even sure if I ever had an
binary package of traceroute-2.0.18.

Here is also a brief explanation of what I'm actually trying to achieve:
A few weeks ago I set up another gentoo system on a rather old system
(core2duo/4gb ram/1TB storage). Since this one should be just a computer
for toying and trying around I thought about to put rootfs on a lvm 
partition so that I can easily clone the whole system.
This works flawless. With a little nice script I've wrote myself I can
easily clone/delete/backup/restore complete system's in minutes, which is
why I already have 6 different systems.
	- gentoo_base
	- gentoo_cinnamon
	- gentoo_gnome (with systemd)
	- gentoo_kde
	- gentoo_kde_testing
	- gentoo_lxqt
I guess the names are self-explaining. 

Moreover, I also had the idea to share similar packages across these
systems. This would mean, if I already installed xorg on
gentoo_cinnamon, I don't have to build it again on gentoo_kde. In this
case binary packages are a big win. Only packages with different use
flags would be rebuild. It's especially handy on packages like firefox,
chromium or libreoffice. :)

After I though old binaries were deleted I was eagerly to find a
solution for that, since it would make my setup less practical.
After all I should have checked other packages more carefully before 
asking stupid questions, but laziness lead me to my initial mail...

Anyway:
Older packages are kept, so everything seems to work as expected. I've
also checked for rm/elcean in cron and other places were it could run
automatically but I couldn't find anything.
I also tested on different systems with different packages. No problems
so far.

I'll keep an eye on it, but I guess there wasn't really a problem.

-- 
greetings
Michael Mair-Keimberger

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      reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 21:01 [gentoo-user] question about binhost's Michael Mair-Keimberger
2014-11-17 21:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-17 21:46   ` Michael Mair-Keimberger
2014-11-17 21:54     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-17 21:32 ` thegeezer
2014-11-17 21:46   ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-17 21:57     ` Matti Nykyri
2014-11-17 21:55   ` Michael Mair-Keimberger
2014-11-17 22:14     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-18  6:45       ` Mick
2014-11-18  7:46         ` wraeth
2014-11-18  8:41           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-18 19:47             ` Michael Mair-Keimberger [this message]

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