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* [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
@ 2014-11-02  6:10 meino.cramer
  2014-11-02  7:40 ` Dale
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: meino.cramer @ 2014-11-02  6:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Gentoo

Hi,

Debain everywhere...
Ubuntu everywhere...

"To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
and apt-get that...your done".

Hrrrmpppfff....

What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?

I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT 
one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".

Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
eix...

What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?

Any help is very appreciated :)

Best regards,
mcc




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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  6:10 [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package meino.cramer
@ 2014-11-02  7:40 ` Dale
  2014-11-02  7:54   ` meino.cramer
  2014-11-02  8:50 ` Neil Bothwick
  2014-11-03  2:13 ` Tom H
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2014-11-02  7:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Debain everywhere...
> Ubuntu everywhere...
>
> "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> and apt-get that...your done".
>
> Hrrrmpppfff....
>
> What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
>
> I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT 
> one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
>
> Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> eix...
>
> What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
>
> Any help is very appreciated :)
>
> Best regards,
> mcc
>

I2c is in the kernel.  I use it to access my temps and such here.  Just
a small snippet:

root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i i2c
# CONFIG_BMP085_I2C is not set
# CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3_I2C is not set
CONFIG_MOUSE_SYNAPTICS_I2C=y
CONFIG_I2C=y
CONFIG_I2C_BOARDINFO=y
CONFIG_I2C_COMPAT=y
CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y
# CONFIG_I2C_MUX is not set
CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y
CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y


SMBUS I think is in the same category.  From a search for smbus from
within menuconfig:

 Symbol: I2C_SMBUS
[=n]                                                                                                                                                               
│ 
  │ Type  :
tristate                                                                                                                                                                     
│ 
  │ Prompt: SMBus-specific
protocols                                                                                                                                                     
│ 
  │  
Location:                                                                                                                                                                          
│ 
  │     -> Device
Drivers                                                                                                                                                                
│ 
  │       -> I2C support (I2C
[=y])                                                                                                                                                      
│ 
  │ (1)     -> Autoselect pertinent helper modules (I2C_HELPER_AUTO
[=y])                                                                                                                
│ 
  │   Defined at
drivers/i2c/Kconfig:76                                                                                                                                                  
│ 
  │   Depends on: I2C
[=y]                                                                                                                                                               
│ 
  │   Selected by: I2C_PARPORT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM [=y] &&
PARPORT [=y] || I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM
[=y]                                                 │ 
  │

If I recall correctly, SMBUS and I2C work together on getting temps and
fan speeds and such. 

Also, some folks use lm-sensors.  I think it does the same but in user
space instead of kernel space.  That's my understanding anyway. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  7:40 ` Dale
@ 2014-11-02  7:54   ` meino.cramer
  2014-11-02  8:24     ` Masanori Ogino
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: meino.cramer @ 2014-11-02  7:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> [14-11-02 08:44]:
> meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Debain everywhere...
> > Ubuntu everywhere...
> >
> > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> > and apt-get that...your done".
> >
> > Hrrrmpppfff....
> >
> > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
> >
> > I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> > a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT 
> > one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
> >
> > Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> > eix...
> >
> > What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
> >
> > Any help is very appreciated :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> >
> 
> I2c is in the kernel.  I use it to access my temps and such here.  Just
> a small snippet:
> 
> root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i i2c
> # CONFIG_BMP085_I2C is not set
> # CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3_I2C is not set
> CONFIG_MOUSE_SYNAPTICS_I2C=y
> CONFIG_I2C=y
> CONFIG_I2C_BOARDINFO=y
> CONFIG_I2C_COMPAT=y
> CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y
> # CONFIG_I2C_MUX is not set
> CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y
> CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y
> 
> 
> SMBUS I think is in the same category.  From a search for smbus from
> within menuconfig:
> 
>  Symbol: I2C_SMBUS
> [=n]                                                                                                                                                               
> │ 
>   │ Type  :
> tristate                                                                                                                                                                     
> │ 
>   │ Prompt: SMBus-specific
> protocols                                                                                                                                                     
> │ 
>   │  
> Location:                                                                                                                                                                          
> │ 
>   │     -> Device
> Drivers                                                                                                                                                                
> │ 
>   │       -> I2C support (I2C
> [=y])                                                                                                                                                      
> │ 
>   │ (1)     -> Autoselect pertinent helper modules (I2C_HELPER_AUTO
> [=y])                                                                                                                
> │ 
>   │   Defined at
> drivers/i2c/Kconfig:76                                                                                                                                                  
> │ 
>   │   Depends on: I2C
> [=y]                                                                                                                                                               
> │ 
>   │   Selected by: I2C_PARPORT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM [=y] &&
> PARPORT [=y] || I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM
> [=y]                                                 │ 
>   │
> 
> If I recall correctly, SMBUS and I2C work together on getting temps and
> fan speeds and such. 
> 
> Also, some folks use lm-sensors.  I think it does the same but in user
> space instead of kernel space.  That's my understanding anyway. 
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 

Hi Dale,

thanks for your informations... :)

I did a typo...instead of 

     "apt-get python smbus".

it must be

     "apt-get python-smbus".


I am searching "python-smbus" for Gentoo.
The kernel configuration is already setup and ok.

Do you the know the translation 

of "python-smbus" (Debian-speak)

to ??? for Gentoo?

Thank you very much in advance!
Best regards,
Meino




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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  7:54   ` meino.cramer
@ 2014-11-02  8:24     ` Masanori Ogino
  2014-11-02  8:39       ` meino.cramer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Masanori Ogino @ 2014-11-02  8:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hello.

Installing sys-apps/i2c-tools with `python` USE flag will install smbus
Python module so-called `python-smbus` in Debian.

2014-11-02 16:54 GMT+09:00 <meino.cramer@gmx.de>:

> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> [14-11-02 08:44]:
> > meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Debain everywhere...
> > > Ubuntu everywhere...
> > >
> > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> > > and apt-get that...your done".
> > >
> > > Hrrrmpppfff....
> > >
> > > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
> > >
> > > I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> > > a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT
> > > one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
> > >
> > > Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> > > eix...
> > >
> > > What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
> > >
> > > Any help is very appreciated :)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > mcc
> > >
> >
> > I2c is in the kernel.  I use it to access my temps and such here.  Just
> > a small snippet:
> >
> > root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i i2c
> > # CONFIG_BMP085_I2C is not set
> > # CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3_I2C is not set
> > CONFIG_MOUSE_SYNAPTICS_I2C=y
> > CONFIG_I2C=y
> > CONFIG_I2C_BOARDINFO=y
> > CONFIG_I2C_COMPAT=y
> > CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y
> > # CONFIG_I2C_MUX is not set
> > CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y
> > CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y
> >
> >
> > SMBUS I think is in the same category.  From a search for smbus from
> > within menuconfig:
> >
> >  Symbol: I2C_SMBUS
> > [=n]
> > │
> >   │ Type  :
> > tristate
> > │
> >   │ Prompt: SMBus-specific
> > protocols
> > │
> >   │
> > Location:
> > │
> >   │     -> Device
> > Drivers
> > │
> >   │       -> I2C support (I2C
> > [=y])
> > │
> >   │ (1)     -> Autoselect pertinent helper modules (I2C_HELPER_AUTO
> > [=y])
> > │
> >   │   Defined at
> > drivers/i2c/Kconfig:76
> > │
> >   │   Depends on: I2C
> > [=y]
> > │
> >   │   Selected by: I2C_PARPORT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM [=y] &&
> > PARPORT [=y] || I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM
> > [=y]                                                 │
> >   │
> >
> > If I recall correctly, SMBUS and I2C work together on getting temps and
> > fan speeds and such.
> >
> > Also, some folks use lm-sensors.  I think it does the same but in user
> > space instead of kernel space.  That's my understanding anyway.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
> >
> >
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> thanks for your informations... :)
>
> I did a typo...instead of
>
>      "apt-get python smbus".
>
> it must be
>
>      "apt-get python-smbus".
>
>
> I am searching "python-smbus" for Gentoo.
> The kernel configuration is already setup and ok.
>
> Do you the know the translation
>
> of "python-smbus" (Debian-speak)
>
> to ??? for Gentoo?
>
> Thank you very much in advance!
> Best regards,
> Meino
>
>
>
>


-- 
Masanori Ogino <masanori.ogino@gmail.com>
http://twitter.com/omasanori
http://gplus.to/omasanori

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  8:24     ` Masanori Ogino
@ 2014-11-02  8:39       ` meino.cramer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: meino.cramer @ 2014-11-02  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hello,

***LIFESAVER*** !!! :)

Thanx A LOT!
Sunday is rescued! 8)))

Best regards,
Meino


Masanori Ogino <masanori.ogino@gmail.com> [14-11-02 09:28]:
> Hello.
> 
> Installing sys-apps/i2c-tools with `python` USE flag will install smbus
> Python module so-called `python-smbus` in Debian.
> 
> 2014-11-02 16:54 GMT+09:00 <meino.cramer@gmx.de>:
> 
> > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> [14-11-02 08:44]:
> > > meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Debain everywhere...
> > > > Ubuntu everywhere...
> > > >
> > > > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> > > > and apt-get that...your done".
> > > >
> > > > Hrrrmpppfff....
> > > >
> > > > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
> > > >
> > > > I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> > > > a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT
> > > > one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
> > > >
> > > > Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> > > > eix...
> > > >
> > > > What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
> > > >
> > > > Any help is very appreciated :)
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > mcc
> > > >
> > >
> > > I2c is in the kernel.  I use it to access my temps and such here.  Just
> > > a small snippet:
> > >
> > > root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i i2c
> > > # CONFIG_BMP085_I2C is not set
> > > # CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3_I2C is not set
> > > CONFIG_MOUSE_SYNAPTICS_I2C=y
> > > CONFIG_I2C=y
> > > CONFIG_I2C_BOARDINFO=y
> > > CONFIG_I2C_COMPAT=y
> > > CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=y
> > > # CONFIG_I2C_MUX is not set
> > > CONFIG_I2C_HELPER_AUTO=y
> > > CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y
> > >
> > >
> > > SMBUS I think is in the same category.  From a search for smbus from
> > > within menuconfig:
> > >
> > >  Symbol: I2C_SMBUS
> > > [=n]
> > > │
> > >   │ Type  :
> > > tristate
> > > │
> > >   │ Prompt: SMBus-specific
> > > protocols
> > > │
> > >   │
> > > Location:
> > > │
> > >   │     -> Device
> > > Drivers
> > > │
> > >   │       -> I2C support (I2C
> > > [=y])
> > > │
> > >   │ (1)     -> Autoselect pertinent helper modules (I2C_HELPER_AUTO
> > > [=y])
> > > │
> > >   │   Defined at
> > > drivers/i2c/Kconfig:76
> > > │
> > >   │   Depends on: I2C
> > > [=y]
> > > │
> > >   │   Selected by: I2C_PARPORT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM [=y] &&
> > > PARPORT [=y] || I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT [=n] && I2C [=y] && HAS_IOMEM
> > > [=y]                                                 │
> > >   │
> > >
> > > If I recall correctly, SMBUS and I2C work together on getting temps and
> > > fan speeds and such.
> > >
> > > Also, some folks use lm-sensors.  I think it does the same but in user
> > > space instead of kernel space.  That's my understanding anyway.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > > :-)  :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> > thanks for your informations... :)
> >
> > I did a typo...instead of
> >
> >      "apt-get python smbus".
> >
> > it must be
> >
> >      "apt-get python-smbus".
> >
> >
> > I am searching "python-smbus" for Gentoo.
> > The kernel configuration is already setup and ok.
> >
> > Do you the know the translation
> >
> > of "python-smbus" (Debian-speak)
> >
> > to ??? for Gentoo?
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance!
> > Best regards,
> > Meino
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Masanori Ogino <masanori.ogino@gmail.com>
> http://twitter.com/omasanori
> http://gplus.to/omasanori


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  6:10 [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package meino.cramer
  2014-11-02  7:40 ` Dale
@ 2014-11-02  8:50 ` Neil Bothwick
  2014-11-02  9:35   ` meino.cramer
  2014-11-03  2:13 ` Tom H
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2014-11-02  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On 2 November 2014 06:10:11 WET, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Debain everywhere...
> Ubuntu everywhere...
> 
> "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> and apt-get that...your done".
> 
> Hrrrmpppfff....
> 
> What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
> 
> I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT 
> one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
> 
> Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> eix...
> 
> What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
> 
> Any help is very appreciated :)
> 
> Best regards,
> mcc

build-essential is a meta-package for the tools needed to build from source, which are already there in Gentoo. 

I use packages.debian.org to see what is in a package, or to see which package contains a file, then eix and educated guesswork usually takes care of the rest. 
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  8:50 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2014-11-02  9:35   ` meino.cramer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: meino.cramer @ 2014-11-02  9:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> [14-11-02 10:08]:
> On 2 November 2014 06:10:11 WET, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Debain everywhere...
> > Ubuntu everywhere...
> > 
> > "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> > and apt-get that...your done".
> > 
> > Hrrrmpppfff....
> > 
> > What the heck is "build-essential?" What's hidden behind it?
> > 
> > I am currently facing a similiar problem: I am trying to get
> > a TFT display running. For using this library to access this TFT 
> > one "only" needs to do a ...guess... "apt-get python smbus".
> > 
> > Neither "smbus' nor "I2C" produces any match in the output of
> > eix...
> > 
> > What's that package? Is it in Gentoo?
> > 
> > Any help is very appreciated :)
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
> 
> build-essential is a meta-package for the tools needed to build from source, which are already there in Gentoo. 
> 
> I use packages.debian.org to see what is in a package, or to see which package contains a file, then eix and educated guesswork usually takes care of the rest. 
> -- 
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Hi Neil,

thanks for the hint! :)

Best regards,
Meino




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* Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...
  2014-11-02  6:10 [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package meino.cramer
  2014-11-02  7:40 ` Dale
  2014-11-02  8:50 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2014-11-03  2:13 ` Tom H
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Tom H @ 2014-11-03  2:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Gentoo User

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM,  <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Debain everywhere...
> Ubuntu everywhere...
>
> "To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this
> and apt-get that...your done".

It's a metapackage to install compilation and packaging packages. So
the Gentoo equivalent is "skip" that part of the howto.


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