[gentoo-user] cookie_monster

[gentoo-user] cookie_monster

[James]

Ok, 

So looking at ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/<dir>/
I see these cookies files:

cookies.sqlite cookies.sqlite-shm cookies.sqlite-wal 

But the are sqlite files. So  I need a gui tool to view them as to discern
logical understanding of what exactly they are and which do delete
or intelligently pre_filter. [1,2]

Any suggestions in portage or as a seamonkey "add-on" would
be keen. I run "no-scipts" but I think I need more to keep
the cookie_monster under control? suggesions? I also use
firefox, just not as much.


James

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/

[2] https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/8177/super-cookies-flash-cookies/

Re: [gentoo-user] cookie_monster

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:45:56PM +0000, James wrote

> 
> So looking at ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/<dir>/
> I see these cookies files:
> 
> cookies.sqlite cookies.sqlite-shm cookies.sqlite-wal 
> 
> But the are sqlite files. So  I need a gui tool to view them as to discern
> logical understanding of what exactly they are and which do delete
> or intelligently pre_filter. [1,2]
> 
> Any suggestions in portage or as a seamonkey "add-on" would
> be keen. I run "no-scipts" but I think I need more to keep
> the cookie_monster under control? suggesions? I also use
> firefox, just not as much.

  Sqlite is a database format.  You might already have sqlite (the
executable) installed, depending on the value of the "system-sqlite" USE
flag.  If so, you can pound away at it manually.  Or you can always...

emerge sqlite

  If you want a GUI rather than command-line, try
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/

  You also mentioned "flash cookies" in passing.  They're a totally
different animal.  They're files that reside in directories ~/.adobe and
~/.macromedia.  The way to kill them is to remove the directories and
create dummy files with the same names, so that Flash can't create the
directories.  Here's a short script...

#!/bin/bash
rm -rf ~/.adobe
touch ~/.adobe
rm -rf ~/.macromedia
touch ~/.macromedia

  The only problem is that certain sites won't play videos without those
directories being present (e.g. video highlights at http://nhl.com ).  I
handle them with the following script...

#!/bin/bash
rm -rf ~/.adobe
rm -rf ~/.macromedia
sleep 20
rm -rf ~/.adobe
touch ~/.adobe
rm -rf ~/.macromedia
touch ~/.macromedia

  I launch the script from a terminal, and then immediately click on the
video link in my browser.  This gets the videos going, and keeps them
going until they finish.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] cookie_monster

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 29 Oct 2014 23:44:07 Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:45:56PM +0000, James wrote
> 
> > So looking at ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/<dir>/
> > I see these cookies files:
> > 
> > cookies.sqlite cookies.sqlite-shm cookies.sqlite-wal
> > 
> > But the are sqlite files. So  I need a gui tool to view them as to
> > discern logical understanding of what exactly they are and which do
> > delete or intelligently pre_filter. [1,2]
> > 
> > Any suggestions in portage or as a seamonkey "add-on" would
> > be keen. I run "no-scipts" but I think I need more to keep
> > the cookie_monster under control? suggesions? I also use
> > firefox, just not as much.
> 
>   Sqlite is a database format.  You might already have sqlite (the
> executable) installed, depending on the value of the "system-sqlite" USE
> flag.  If so, you can pound away at it manually.  Or you can always...
> 
> emerge sqlite
> 
>   If you want a GUI rather than command-line, try
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/
> 
>   You also mentioned "flash cookies" in passing.  They're a totally
> different animal.  They're files that reside in directories ~/.adobe and
> ~/.macromedia.  The way to kill them is to remove the directories and
> create dummy files with the same names, so that Flash can't create the
> directories.  Here's a short script...
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> touch ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> touch ~/.macromedia
> 
>   The only problem is that certain sites won't play videos without those
> directories being present (e.g. video highlights at http://nhl.com ).  I
> handle them with the following script...
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> sleep 20
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> touch ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> touch ~/.macromedia
> 
>   I launch the script from a terminal, and then immediately click on the
> video link in my browser.  This gets the videos going, and keeps them
> going until they finish.

I think that the ~/.adobe directory does not contain website content traceable 
information, but flash version related info.  Could be wrong though.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: cookie_monster

[James]

Walter Dnes <waltdnes <at> waltdnes.org> writes:


> emerge sqlite

Yea, I should have been more clear. Already had sqlite installed
and quite a few apps are using it...

> 
>   If you want a GUI rather than command-line, try
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/

I'll have to look at this one. I went ahead and installed:
dev-db/sqlitebrowser


>   You also mentioned "flash cookies" in passing.  They're a totally
> different animal.  They're files that reside in directories ~/.adobe and
> ~/.macromedia.  The way to kill them is to remove the directories and
> create dummy files with the same names, so that Flash can't create the
> directories.  Here's a short script...

Only those (2) apps have flash cookies?
Flashcookies are new issues for me.
What the heck are they being used by these apps?
Just to avoid detection and removal? 

If so, it seems somebody would create and add_on to
deal with this crap or include this "cleansing" via
an establish security script......?

> #!/bin/bash
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> touch ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> touch ~/.macromedia

OK, good explanation.

>   The only problem is that certain sites won't play videos without those
> directories being present (e.g. video highlights at http://nhl.com ).  I
> handle them with the following script...

> #!/bin/bash
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> sleep 20
> rm -rf ~/.adobe
> touch ~/.adobe
> rm -rf ~/.macromedia
> touch ~/.macromedia

>   I launch the script from a terminal, and then immediately click on the
> video link in my browser.  This gets the videos going, and keeps them
> going until they finish.


Nice strategy.
Thanks!

[gentoo-user] Re: cookie_monster

[»Q«]

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:32:02 +0000 (UTC)
James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Walter Dnes <waltdnes <at> waltdnes.org> writes:

> >   You also mentioned "flash cookies" in passing.  They're a totally
> > different animal.  They're files that reside in directories
> > ~/.adobe and ~/.macromedia.  

> Only those (2) apps have flash cookies?

I never find them in ~/.adobe, so I think only ~/.macromedia has them.

> Flashcookies are new issues for me.
> What the heck are they being used by these apps?
> Just to avoid detection and removal? 
> 
> If so, it seems somebody would create and add_on to
> deal with this crap or include this "cleansing" via
> an establish security script......?

<https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/> gives pretty
good options for deleting them on open, close, or using a timer.  It
also lets you protect some from cleaning if you want.  I don't protect
any of mine, including the one which stores basic Flash settings,
without noticing any ill effects on pages which use Flash.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cookie_monster

[Walter Dnes]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 05:37:06PM -0500, »Q« wrote
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:32:02 +0000 (UTC)
> James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Walter Dnes <waltdnes <at> waltdnes.org> writes:
> 
> > >   You also mentioned "flash cookies" in passing.  They're a totally
> > > different animal.  They're files that reside in directories
> > > ~/.adobe and ~/.macromedia.  
> 
> > Only those (2) apps have flash cookies?
> 
> I never find them in ~/.adobe, so I think only ~/.macromedia has them.

  It varies by OS and browser.  See...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object#File_locations for a
list of locations.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

[gentoo-user] Re: cookie_monster

[James]

Walter Dnes <waltdnes <at> waltdnes.org> writes:


>   It varies by OS and browser.  See...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_shared_object#File_locations for a
> list of locations.


All very good to know.

Thx,
James