[gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Joseph]

I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
But that doesn't help me.
Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start another program.
Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.

So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to another (remote) VB - Windows XP 
Is it possible?.

The user is running certain program, that uses database.  
I'm trying to login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an administrator (that uses that same database).

How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[tlze]

search "xp remote desktop"

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Jc García]

2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
> But that doesn't help me.
> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
> another program.
> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
>
> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to
> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
>
> The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying to
> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an
> administrator (that uses that same database).
>
> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
>

You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
> --
> Joseph
>

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Joseph]

On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
>2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
>> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
>> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
>> But that doesn't help me.
>> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
>> another program.
>> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
>>
>> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to
>> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
>>
>> The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying to
>> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an
>> administrator (that uses that same database).
>>
>> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
>>
>
>You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
>are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.

Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utility

But I think it only works on the same subnet.

-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Jc García]

2014-10-06 23:17 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
>>
>> 2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
>>> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
>>> But that doesn't help me.
>>> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
>>> another program.
>>> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
>>>
>>> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to
>>> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
>>>
>>> The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying to
>>> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an
>>> administrator (that uses that same database).
>>>
>>> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
>>>
>>
>> You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
>> are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
>
>
> Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utility
>
> But I think it only works on the same subnet.
>
'even the unix-style one works' seems you didn't get the hint:
SSH, just install a server on the VM.
> --
> Joseph
>

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[J. Roeleveld]

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On Monday, October 06, 2014 11:17:49 PM Joseph wrote:
> On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
> >2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> >> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
> >> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
> >> But that doesn't help me.
> >> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
> >> another program.
> >> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
> >> 
> >> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login 
to
> >> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
> >> 
> >> The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying 
to
> >> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program 
as an
> >> administrator (that uses that same database).
> >> 
> >> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
> >
> >You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
> >are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
> 
> Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utility
> 
> But I think it only works on the same subnet.

As stated by others, this is way OT and Google should help here.

RDC works over different subnets, even (if you're stupid enough to open 
the ports in the firewall) from a different country over the internet.

MS Windows XP is NOT a multi-user OS, what you want to do might work, 
but is extremely flakey.

--
Joost

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Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Kerin Millar]

On 07/10/2014 07:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, October 06, 2014 11:17:49 PM Joseph wrote:
>
>  > On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
>
>  > >2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
>
>  > >> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
>
>  > >> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
>
>  > >> But that doesn't help me.
>
>  > >> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to
> start
>
>  > >> another program.
>
>  > >> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
>
>  > >>
>
>  > >> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to
> login to
>
>  > >> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
>
>  > >>
>
>  > >> The user is running certain program, that uses database. I'm trying to
>
>  > >> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program
> as an
>
>  > >> administrator (that uses that same database).
>
>  > >>
>
>  > >> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
>
>  > >
>
>  > >You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
>
>  > >are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
>
>  >
>
>  > Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
>
>  > http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utility
>
>  >
>
>  > But I think it only works on the same subnet.
>
> As stated by others, this is way OT and Google should help here.
>
> RDC works over different subnets, even (if you're stupid enough to open
> the ports in the firewall) from a different country over the internet.
>
> MS Windows XP is NOT a multi-user OS, what you want to do might work,
> but is extremely flakey.

It is a multi-user OS. The problem is that the Remote Desktop Session 
Host component is artificially restricted in non-server editions of 
Windows, preventing concurrent sessions. Those so inclined can remove 
this restriction with an unofficial patch that is fairly easy to find.

--Kerin

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tuesday, October 07, 2014 08:50:14 AM Kerin Millar wrote:
> On 07/10/2014 07:12, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday, October 06, 2014 11:17:49 PM Joseph wrote:
> >  > On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
> >  > >2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> >  > >> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> But that doesn't help me.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to
> > 
> > start
> > 
> >  > >> another program.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to
> > 
> > login to
> > 
> >  > >> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> The user is running certain program, that uses database. I'm trying
> >  > >> to
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program
> > 
> > as an
> > 
> >  > >> administrator (that uses that same database).
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> 
> >  > >> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
> >  > >
> >  > >You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
> >  > >
> >  > >are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
> >  > 
> >  > Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
> >  > 
> >  > http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utili
> >  > ty
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > But I think it only works on the same subnet.
> > 
> > As stated by others, this is way OT and Google should help here.
> > 
> > RDC works over different subnets, even (if you're stupid enough to open
> > the ports in the firewall) from a different country over the internet.
> > 
> > MS Windows XP is NOT a multi-user OS, what you want to do might work,
> > but is extremely flakey.
> 
> It is a multi-user OS.

Simultaneously?
When I talk about a multi-user OS, the OS is designed to be used by multiple 
users simultaneously.
It supports multiple user accounts, but isn't capable of properly isolating 
the different users when they all try to work on the same machine at the same 
time.

> The problem is that the Remote Desktop Session
> Host component is artificially restricted in non-server editions of
> Windows, preventing concurrent sessions. Those so inclined can remove
> this restriction with an unofficial patch that is fairly easy to find.

Other parts of the non-server editions have not been tested with this patch.
Never mind that you are basically violating the EULA when using that patch.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Randolph Maaßen]

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Am 07.10.2014 um 07:17 schrieb Joseph:
> On 10/06/14 21:22, Jc García wrote:
>> 2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
>>> I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
>>> I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
>>> But that doesn't help me.
>>> Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
>>> another program.
>>> Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
>>>
>>> So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to
>>> another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
>>>
>>> The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying to
>>> login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an
>>> administrator (that uses that same database).
>>>
>>> How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
>>>
>>
>> You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
>> are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.
> 
> Windows XP has a build in Remote Desktop but:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Windows-XP%27s-Built-in-Remote-Desktop-Utility
> 
> But I think it only works on the same subnet.
> 

If you want to use Windows RDP you can try freerdp, which is a Linux
client for the build in Remote Desktop, no need for a second VM


- -- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With Kind Regards
Randolph Maaßen
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Re: [gentoo-user] VB - login from one Windows XP to another XP

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 04:22:59 Jc García wrote:
> 2014-10-06 19:52 GMT-06:00 Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com>:
> > I'm running Windows XP in VirtualBox.
> > I can NX to the running VB - Windows XP as (shadow or new) session.
> > But that doesn't help me.
> > Via "Shadow session" I would disturb the current user if I try to start
> > another program.
> > Via "New" session I can not see Windows XP session as it is running.
> > 
> > So I think I have to start VB - Windows XP on my box and try to login to
> > another (remote) VB - Windows XP Is it possible?.
> > 
> > The user is running certain program, that uses database.  I'm trying to
> > login to the remote Windows XP session and start the same program as an
> > administrator (that uses that same database).
> > 
> > How to log-in from one windows XP to another over the network?
> 
> You search in google and do a ton of clicks, this is so OT. and there
> are many answers out here, even the unix-style one works.


I recall having set up a virtualised WinXP application so that it could be 
launched and run in a window on a remote Linux PC.  Not the whole WinXP OS 
virtual desktop, but a single application only.  The WinXP OS was a guest VM 
running within VirtualBox in another Linux PC.  I can't recall if a user 
logged into the WinXP OS at the time was affected in any way, i.e. logged out.  
I think not, but I am not sure.

I am thin on the details, I did this some years ago as a PoC.  Google should 
bring something up if you search for running remotely virtualized Windows 
applications with VirtualBox.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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