From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5E713877A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D85FE08B5; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F90E0897 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:59:50 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsGAIDvNVNFxIN4/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7w0yBFxd0giUBAQEBAzocMwsYCRMSDwUlN4d5DdIMF48BFoMOgRQEjz6JD4E0hS2Ja4Fqg0wh X-IPAS-Result: AqsGAIDvNVNFxIN4/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7w0yBFxd0giUBAQEBAzocMwsYCRMSDwUlN4d5DdIMF48BFoMOgRQEjz6JD4E0hS2Ja4Fqg0wh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="82005139" Received: from 69-196-131-120.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.196.131.120]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 02 Aug 2014 22:59:48 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 02 Aug 2014 22:59:29 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 22:59:29 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling Message-ID: <20140803025929.GA2092@waltdnes.org> References: <53D93323.1060300@googlemail.com> <20140730200549.02099352@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <53D94C04.10204@gmail.com> <53D95636.5010401@googlemail.com> <20140731015540.GA19648@waltdnes.org> <53D9AECF.6080902@googlemail.com> <53D9BD1B.8040109@alectenharmsel.com> <53DA02A1.60007@googlemail.com> <20140801031619.GA28433@waltdnes.org> <53DBC6ED.4060409@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DBC6ED.4060409@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Archives-Salt: 7d805546-0fe0-4332-ae7c-160fc199a5f2 X-Archives-Hash: f6b650cb7e50b3bbbc1a442e399f57ca On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 06:57:17PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > On 01/08/2014 05:16, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > > > >> how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for > >> okular? well, you still have all of qt... and kdelibs and phonon... but > >> you would loose a lot of the other stuff. vlc support in phonon is as > >> optional as tiff or chm in okular. > > > > When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are > > reasonable flags. One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon. And > > phonon *DEMANDS SOMETHING*. vlc is one of the options that satisfies > > phonon's demands. Or you could choose gstreamer and its gazillion plugins. > > > > > I have no idea what you are talking about. > > [I] kde-base/okular > Available versions: (4) 4.12.5-r1(4/4.12)^t (~)4.13.3(4/4.13)^t > {aqua chm crypt debug djvu dpi ebook +handbook +jpeg mobi +pdf > +postscript +tiff} > > > There's nothing in there about audio or video. There's only images and > of those only 4 rational ones are enabled by default plus the help system. > > So what is the real problem exactly again? On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 09:49:57PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > > phonon is not an okular dependency. It is a "deep dependancy". kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.5-r1.ebuild has a "COMMONDEPEND=" block which includes ">=media-libs/phonon-4.4.3". And media-libs/phonon-4.6.0-r1.ebuild has the following line... REQUIRED_USE="|| ( aqua gstreamer vlc )" In gentoo, *ANY* kde app which runs on the kde infrastructure requires phonon, and one of aqua/gstreamer/vlc, unless you resort to ugly hackery as per http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/276393 -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications