From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD9213877A for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 494D4E0ABC; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com (mail-wi0-f171.google.com [209.85.212.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24699E0AA6 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 05:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n15so7157362wiw.16 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:52:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=xzBG/Ea4XXft2XeZxOcjxXQBPdIRE84aoyn1/y0tXZU=; b=S0xbvyS15JwXiZJnTNQtHLE+Oz2KjNczUIPm0aU1mbxJBc404mZ/RWVRdzuBebibLQ ckgWD3XHSP9O0tU7vO943jdHcbWqJMIIfFIXk3Y5pPDxzZI0HP4d2FZSPQhvi6a4dlSG mo8Lvd1FsluTB8d8B472aDIx+3Tas62kNLRnhc5np9cnxiOm2WrPWHRPbjk6MEm+EoLC 8X8JDWrvKE26XVuB8knKuZJ0xutHqsaxFohfvjaNgv7sgBPOpUq1AUyoQYfEln2imLUD 93lLZ85mSux0T7M6iQGWLhzsCxhM2lUljV74N7gCqpUi/A+2hMw8E+o0+nKvSFAfjr4a ebkw== X-Received: by 10.194.90.51 with SMTP id bt19mr742402wjb.105.1404193954982; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rw4sm45848597wjb.44.2014.06.30.22.52.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 06:52:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.12.21-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AF99B6.7070809@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4405411.pjj4LEH1aB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201407010652.12440.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 8b0547e3-70a8-4a31-a080-8e6fb33409cf X-Archives-Hash: 410bd8457c09f238f370dbdee5a4e853 --nextPart4405411.pjj4LEH1aB Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 13:05:04 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote: > > What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm > > thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test > > every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of > > testing? I realize no one knows with 100% certainty... >=20 > As you already said, nobody knows with 100% certainty. >=20 > In the failures I've experienced I'd expect it to start catching > errors within a few days. However, on those drives the relocated > sector count never increases, which suggests that the firmware never > relocated those sectors when overwritten, which seems brain-dead to > me. >=20 > If the drive relocates the sectors, then conceivably it could go quite > a long time until having errors, probably in an entirely different set > of sectors. >=20 > Even if it doesn't relocate, the reliability of the bad sectors could > be high or low. >=20 > Rich What triggers a relocation? I also have a drive which shows a sector=20 relocation pending, but for a few days now and after some tests that showed= no=20 errors, it won't relocate it. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart4405411.pjj4LEH1aB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABCAAGBQJTskyMAAoJELAdA+zwE4YexH8H/22GioWgfewZ20rCawQfgowt 3nj49yiG2HkztVxr8c2yQ/YQFflgB924SQnmEUc+lrApEvQmxBq+yaN1m999nLn/ bZ+DtLbc4QobUPan6ShIs2jYUg29pmAEZXDX9piv2jONyrdDzh0PgKPa+DL7HbmU 7DoqJ8BDQ9hPN6RqlENoJ8qYvy2wHV5EjaKpH3W92jTiFC4dhSU8CyK828tI7k96 SZKeZiVDNnGs7sKyslAqHHbD38dUfwz3h0x8MaCM/d9dm+yI4KzEFNDcknGDxkGI 2i5EhVEA4PFUe9ywmaFXezx0qLNKofo2Qy449EBYBJPO3qKzUDAPeDz9UugVWb8= =CRIQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4405411.pjj4LEH1aB--