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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:38:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201406290839.16900.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53AF99B6.7070809@gmail.com>

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On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> So, thoughts?  Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this
> >> going to be trouble down the line?  Should I just fill the thing up with
> >> data and test the stuffin out of it to make sure?
> > 
> > That is pretty typical.  You wrote to every sector on the drive.  You
> > don't need to be able to read a sector to overwrite it, so doing this
> > cleared out the drive's list of offline uncorrectable sectors.  If
> > you're fortunate it relocated those sectors in which case the drive is
> > only using good sectors now.  It can't relocate a sector unless it
> > either gets a successful read, or it is overwritten, and you overwrote
> > them.
> > 
> > Either way the extended offline test passing isn't unusual.  Either it
> > relocated the sectors in which case the drive is "completely good" or
> > the data written to the bad sectors was readable when the test was
> > run, which doesn't guarantee that it will still be readable a
> > day/week/month/year from now.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I don't think there is any way to find out what the
> > firmware is doing, or to predict the likelihood of another failure.
> > The only thing we can say for sure that like all hard drives, it WILL
> > fail sometime.
> > 
> > Rich
> 
> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full.  I'm
> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so.  If I do that and run the test
> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of
> testing?  I realize no one knows with 100% certainty but I would like to
> backup my data say every couple weeks just in case.  If the drive works,
> fine.  If it fails, well, it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be
> a primary drive so no big loss.
> 
> I got to find me a good drive for backups tho.  I'm waiting on a good
> sale of a brand other than Seagate tho.  That should help keep two
> drives from failing at the same time.  Well, a little anyway.  I think
> it is called Dale's Law now.  ;-)

I'm not sure what it is called, but it seems infectious!  I have a drive (in a 
laptop) which I recently zeroed out with dd and fsck -c for good measure, 
before I installed gentoo on it.  Yesterday, I tried a long test, but it won't 
complete.  It reached "10% remaining" and it stayed there for a few hours.  I 
will repeat the test to see if it gets through this time, but I am worried 
that it's on its way out.

Oh well, I may install an SSD if it fails.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-29  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-24 23:09 [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Dale
2014-06-25  4:20 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  5:05   ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:26     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  7:43       ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:41     ` thegeezer
2014-06-25  7:49       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:42         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 13:15           ` Dale
2014-06-25 14:03             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 15:54               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:09                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 16:44                   ` Mick
2014-06-25 17:29                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 22:16                       ` Dale
2014-06-25 22:32                         ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  2:07                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  2:15                             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  4:57                               ` Dale
2014-06-29 15:17                                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2014-07-01  8:30                                   ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:46                                     ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  8:58                                       ` Dale
2014-07-01  9:06                                         ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  9:11                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  9:21                                             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:19                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01 12:36                                                 ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:49                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25 22:50                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26  2:15                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  5:56                             ` Mick
2014-06-26  5:59                               ` Mick
2014-06-26 14:14                                 ` Dale
2014-06-26 15:08                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 15:31                                     ` Dale
2014-06-27 13:22                                     ` Mick
2014-06-27 20:54                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-27 21:26                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-27 21:41                                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-28  7:48                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2014-06-28  8:37                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 11:54                                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  7:22                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2014-06-26 10:11                             ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 11:03                               ` Dale
2014-06-26 11:24                                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 11:40                                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:38                         ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26  2:31                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:39                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-28 11:55                           ` Dale
2014-06-28 12:40                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 13:05                               ` Dale
2014-06-28 13:08                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-28 13:58                                   ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:15                                     ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:50                                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-28 16:00                                         ` Mick
2014-06-28 17:30                                           ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:38                 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  2:13                   ` Dale
2014-06-25 18:44               ` Douglas J Hunley
2014-06-25 18:50                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 16:05               ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:00             ` David Haller
2014-06-26  2:40               ` Dale
2014-06-26  6:05                 ` David Haller
2014-06-26 16:19             ` [gentoo-user] OT: power requirement (WAS: smartctrl drive error @60%) Frank Steinmetzger
2014-06-26 17:05               ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 23:01                 ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26 17:31               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:55         ` [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:06           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:15             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:44               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 21:19                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-26  3:45                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  1:16                 ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26  3:54                   ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:05                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 10:54                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:52                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 11:20                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 12:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 13:58                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:14                           ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 17:21                     ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-25 21:11           ` Dale
2014-06-25  9:46     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 10:05       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:55         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 11:02           ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-06-25 13:21             ` covici
2014-06-25 12:33           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 14:23             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 14:29               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 16:00                 ` Dale
2014-06-25 15:30             ` covici
2014-06-25 16:34               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:58               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-25 12:30         ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:35 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-29  3:27 ` Dale
2014-06-29  3:34   ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29  4:44     ` Dale
2014-06-29  7:38       ` Mick [this message]
2014-06-29  8:42         ` Dale
2014-06-29  9:40           ` Mick
2014-06-29 12:05       ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29 12:30         ` Dale
2014-07-01  5:52         ` Mick
2014-07-01  6:09           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  7:21             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:48             ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-01 10:55           ` Alan McKinnon

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