From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FE813877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B80DE0ACC; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19073E0AC5 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hactar.digimed.co.uk (hactar.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.3]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F12792417F for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:05:45 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:05:34 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Message-ID: <20140626110534.092fbb8f@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <53AB997B.8080304@gmail.com> References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <49620f42-d9c3-43b1-9f01-1250e52eb950@email.android.com> <53AA587F.8090300@gmail.com> <53AA7D11.6070909@thegeezer.net> <53AA7EF5.2000903@gmail.com> <53AAFEEE.7020508@googlemail.com> <53AB03C3.9000601@googlemail.com> <53AB7465.1080100@gmail.com> <53AB997B.8080304@gmail.com> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1-42-g20d68d (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/t4UEzpagjqkdiXaU/a=Uq3q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 808c7621-5cc3-4250-bbcd-c4c36ee581ee X-Archives-Hash: 1d2ac31bc91d8aecd9191e6592f959b3 --Sig_/t4UEzpagjqkdiXaU/a=Uq3q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:54:35 -0500, Dale wrote: > Curious. I hope I don't start a flame war here. I have had WD, Seagate > and I think there is a Samsung here somewhere, may be the one that is > rolling over on its back now. The one drive that failed a few years ago > was a WD drive. That said, all the other WD drives I have had just got > to small to really use, and slow when SATA came out. I'm partial to WD > and Seagate still since I got good long term use out of those. Based on > your experience, you tend to be of the same opinion?=20 >=20 > Allan, your situation should involve a lot of hard drives. Any > thoughts? Neil, you have a nice big opinion on this?=20 Yes, mix drives from different manufacturers. Or buy them at different times. All manufacturers can have bad batches (remember the IBM Deathstar?). I bought two Seagate drives a couple of years ago, for use in a RAID. The only time I have ignored my own advice on this matter (other matters are way off topic!). After a year they both started showing SMART errors and one of them failed soon after, the other was replaced before it had a chance to fail. Yes, it's anecdotal, but it makes sense - true redundancy means using different sources. --=20 Neil Bothwick I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. --Sig_/t4UEzpagjqkdiXaU/a=Uq3q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlOr8HkACgkQum4al0N1GQPK/wCgoB6lcattRMvqsNj1lw1YbET/ ZLsAn2WWClxre4odldIvs1RzENG9rMmw =Go6U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/t4UEzpagjqkdiXaU/a=Uq3q--