From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7055413877A for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFE0EE0D20; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF800E0CFF for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (shooty.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 079EB33AFC for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:34:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:33:59 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gupnp enforces connman || networkmanager Message-ID: <20140615093359.0437721b@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <539CDB4D.7040700@gmail.com> References: <539CDB4D.7040700@gmail.com> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1-42-g20d68d (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/nzJGE1OIERLtM5N3S.ATFJz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 3d81d809-4897-4988-8474-28e2e7cfcf4c X-Archives-Hash: afe0b157edab351abf9d0aa992ec64f4 --Sig_/nzJGE1OIERLtM5N3S.ATFJz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 01:31:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Maybe I want farstream. Maybe I want upnp for it. > Maybe I don't care for connman or networkmanager (I use wicd, some users > want no nw manager at all) >=20 > So, what is the sense behind a feature of an instant messenger framework > causing me to decide between two undesirable connection managers? >=20 > Anyone see some valid logic that I miss? I see two separate issues here. If you re going to depend on a network manager, there should be a virtual - networkmanager, connman, wicd, openrc and systemd all have that capability. Secondly, I agree with you that there seems no need to require a network manager just to use a networked service. After all, people use IM on desktop computers with wired connections. What matters is that you have a network connection, not the mechanics used to set it up. --=20 Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, give up. No use being a damn fool. --Sig_/nzJGE1OIERLtM5N3S.ATFJz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlOdWnwACgkQum4al0N1GQMpfgCfU9mzTtJJbxpeWKpMS+gkRqow JmUAoMfL9qTcEqmo9mAmDNdKABrVLx+G =Zroo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/nzJGE1OIERLtM5N3S.ATFJz--