From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530481381FA for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76026E0A96; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49B71E08F7 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id y10so1039299wgg.25 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:59:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=7EWUZiezclR1hOYf4Yld94igT1jwDVUu2tky14yx+Tk=; b=ME+FBPXCUF6YAlvgYPBXmSVmthrhcq8wDf3YI0mAxRawcB/kGITRe9WOXMkdIf5RfO ehqHh/PVo2XbiD6jzFq9qvDNa43TVF0iBwjWz+dKDFrFjn+oNdQZ/bz6d30hufbPNYxl Ku1PwVppsEBUEc9fxCj/MZZcyqjMm/Bb+BadzP8mOvtjWQsoSRune/D57HWSezE7NK5m nK1pGkSMEKQTa4f7itrU93ICcaTQM1CHzJOWGZHhejUvYlNbyg8XFxpSM9QE9KpTDHMo QK3aNsILcTusSqV4FjaIJPt8WSk5MbUODsbWYcH+LIWE9jXGtHig3QLRdo62P1svlVPv cyuw== X-Received: by 10.194.120.68 with SMTP id la4mr81068737wjb.40.1401973155957; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s9sm54071516wix.13.2014.06.05.05.59.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:58:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.12.20-gentoo; KDE/4.12.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <20140605124742.54d77f0e@gentoo.org> <539053D1.3000406@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <539053D1.3000406@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2937611.Bsmt9d3kRq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201406051359.00283.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ff12bea3-3f90-47a4-a867-508ae2e47a90 X-Archives-Hash: 8ba81495bf26fae44121633275c2006e --nextPart2937611.Bsmt9d3kRq Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 12:26:09 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 > >=20 > > Mick wrote: > >> Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a > >> gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they > >> want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? > >=20 > > For them to have support for sleep and hibernate, someone needs to > > develop / maintain it in order to adapt to kernel API changes; as long > > as the only one doing this is systemd, you'll work towards only it > > being supported there in the future. >=20 > Correct, and to name an example, pm-utils is still using the old > wireless stack and > 'wireless-utils' instead of 'iw' > As in, pm-utils is using kernel options that are marked as DEPRECATED in > the menuconfig, and DEPRECATED means they are going away at some point So > it won't be long the package is broken for every machine that has wireless > card > I'm sure there are multiple other examples available, but this one pops > up to > mind immediately =46air enough, I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machin= e and=20 it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2937611.Bsmt9d3kRq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABCAAGBQJTkGmUAAoJELAdA+zwE4Ye5A0IAKlefQWQ7rxRJ6c4q4ShJw7w 7iMDzxurLbakH1uF7ZOw45NfZUgDtkN8gk+ZncFzPn/AeIN+FbUiBg3EfmqJOtK7 arip/rlv9qjeQVYkLZ9V0VzfD4DJdoNT9zcbG2GXMbNoJ3NJ/0vNhJi1hGO0GE1R nnbRndeUwSJqXQvemS2snlPqBMFIvY4YJqEGp/D3IsmwBwXE9CwqGvSJ56XXEQgs XO0t22XMK3gsAo0HZpLBEyjt1OW6SDs5D38Q6DWDZ0AUuFqAMipXWb7YY/VTrR9V 9JuqFWREboPLiXkKyJHOAqxLCgPi0ucVkZWTl4qgOqZrs+mCPif8Z/4MdfDAVRk= =5d79 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2937611.Bsmt9d3kRq--