From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB891381FA for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D9FE09E6; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CAFE093B for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 09:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id AZh71o00H3JKcCE01Zh7dR; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:41:07 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 11:40:06 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Message-ID: <20140605114006.37a0db29@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <538FA88A.2000608@gmx.us> References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <6653474.aQqAYpAeto@wstn> <538DFC41.3080602@libertytrek.org> <538E2CBA.4000709@gmail.com> <538E37A0.1030105@marc-stuermer.de> <538E40E6.8060107@gmail.com> <538E591B.4020708@jsbc.cc> <538E6F1A.2070209@gmx.us> <538E7AEF.9060006@gmx.us> <538E7D21.6090907@mackal.net> <538E81B1.90101@gmx.us> <538E9AF1.3090709@gentoo.org> <538F016E.4090606@admin-box.com> <538F5358.7020607@gmx.us> <538F70C2.1060608@gentoo.org> <538FA88A.2000608@gmx.us> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/.KyFTVX+3piOAm6peejts/1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 2c0cb746-42d5-4758-b6f4-1b5977a11f88 X-Archives-Hash: a3a4c923f335e1dd4482a3a8c43fad34 --Sig_/.KyFTVX+3piOAm6peejts/1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 19:15:22 -0400 Dutch Ingraham wrote: > Thanks everybody for your help. I've made the further suggested > changes, but I remain with the three hard blocks. Can you provide the emerge output of the following command? emerge --tree --unordered-diplay -uDNv @world This makes it more clear what pulls in systemd. Once you know that, you can mask the chain and use an alternative; other than that, MATE is in the Portage tree and therefore you can remove the MATE overlay to avoid running into unnecessary blockers. This happening has nothing to do with Gentoo or systemd; around four years ago the development of pm-utils stopped, which causes UPower to nowadays take a decision. This results in the following scenarios: 1. If you need pm-utils, you either need to switch to the upower-pm-utils fork or to systemd; 2. If you don't need pm-utils, you either need to a) upgrade to upower-0.99 once reverse dependencies support it and it is stabilized (this has no dependency on systemd); b) switch to upower-pm-utils despite not needing pm-utils; c) switch to systemd. Gentoo reflects that decision as magic can't happen from one day to the other; while trying to keep a fork upower-pm-utils alive as long as it can be kept working given the manpower, kernel API and so on... --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/.KyFTVX+3piOAm6peejts/1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTkDr6AAoJEPWZc8roOL/Q5vQH/222m5VgWSmDsL7BMwYkzclv yBiwuo3dnA3SD5pSLGX7VJtLJPBQNEsNCKdB7NSmfRIIqi5PCHyhSgixLLu0lrlo fLyybtYtHXWrdnti02thhdBCotU8l6WfPyOMugtJp7/pULFMXJOodDF06UyihbaA rrGKO4z48z+asNJWSKCGmdFT5gQ85rbkNVZfaRpLDZsep3yyQJgGe7pVMUxExYFq rQbYRyGJiCjbsbqcwGnayvPOgh+EbcXxveM+JeOKMz/NOuUwmiNEq2PhiGxo3seQ QME58RghO5ZW+jmuQzi8csnwZ/1IJo2lyZzXn9S6Z/LugjlLdDAbaS+3KH31NMQ= =R3Ew -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.KyFTVX+3piOAm6peejts/1--