From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4441381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 13:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9060BE09C0; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 13:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8544EE09A9 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 13:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (shooty.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 835A724487 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:47:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:47:14 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Message-ID: <20140604144714.13aa4834@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <538F0F5F.8020707@libertytrek.org> References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <6653474.aQqAYpAeto@wstn> <538DFC41.3080602@libertytrek.org> <538F0F5F.8020707@libertytrek.org> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.0-37-g5a569c (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/ZxgBBZoC.KJrhQMy83A5/B="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 8f9feb81-c47e-493a-8d68-4010565ccf1e X-Archives-Hash: b48b04de5326e4866d55bc8de5b302ec --Sig_/ZxgBBZoC.KJrhQMy83A5/B= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than > build it to work independently of the init system), Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes, they could code their own version, but all the time they spend coding and testing it will not be spent on the actual project, we all end up with an inferior product. Also, by adding to the software the uses systemd, or any other underlying code, the number of users/testers of that code increases. You seem to think the Upower devs simply decided to use systemd instead of doing it themselves. In fact, they were always using code, from either systemd or pm-utils. The fact that development stopped on pm-utils is neither the fault of the Upower or systemd people. They were reduced to a choice of one and you blame them for making the wrong choice? --=20 Neil Bothwick "Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice" --Sig_/ZxgBBZoC.KJrhQMy83A5/B= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlOPI2YACgkQum4al0N1GQPNGQCdFh6p8FMZZM2Bsubh+zTa+x8c +EsAn1TsUn67FiAdcQ6OFcL3Re+yPK6S =qaVF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ZxgBBZoC.KJrhQMy83A5/B=--