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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:47:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140604144714.13aa4834@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <538F0F5F.8020707@libertytrek.org>

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On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:21:51 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

> And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than
> build it to work independently of the init system),

Reusing existing, proven code is not laziness, it is efficiency. Yes,
they could code their own version, but all the time they spend coding and
testing it will not be spent on the actual project, we all end up with an
inferior product. Also, by adding to the software the uses systemd, or
any other underlying code, the number of users/testers of that code
increases.

You seem to think the Upower devs simply decided to use systemd instead
of doing it themselves. In fact, they were always using code, from either
systemd or pm-utils. The fact that development stopped on pm-utils is
neither the fault of the Upower or systemd people. They were reduced to a
choice of one and you blame them for making the wrong choice?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"Theory and practice are the same in theory, but different in practice"

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-04 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 14:14 [gentoo-user] Systemd upower Silvio Siefke
2014-06-03 14:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 14:52   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-03 15:10     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 15:14       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-03 15:39         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04  8:33           ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04  1:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Greg Woodbury
2014-06-03 16:48       ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-03 17:08         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:14           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:01             ` Marc Stürmer
2014-06-03 21:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 21:59                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 22:06                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-03 23:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:13                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 23:24                       ` Jim Burwell
2014-06-04  0:58                         ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:08                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:48                             ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  1:57                               ` Michael Cook
2014-06-04  2:17                                 ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04  4:05                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 11:22                                     ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:15                                       ` Daniel Troeder
2014-06-04 12:49                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 17:11                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 19:17                                         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 23:15                                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-04 23:25                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:07                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:22                                                 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2014-06-05  0:46                                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  0:51                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 23:27                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-05  9:47                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05  0:02                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 11:39                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:00                                                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:17                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:18                                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 14:11                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05  9:40                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 12:11                                               ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 12:31                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 14:15                                                   ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:40                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 22:28                                                       ` Dutch Ingraham
2014-06-05 15:42                                                     ` Mick
2014-06-04 12:24                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-04  2:07                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  3:13                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04  0:14                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-03 22:59               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-03 23:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-03 23:15                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04  1:37           ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04  2:05             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-04 10:28               ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-04 15:11                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-05  6:34                   ` Greg Woodbury
2014-06-05 10:36                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-05 11:23                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:21           ` Tanstaafl
2014-06-04 12:57             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 12:58             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 13:08               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-04 18:28                 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-04 18:45                   ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-04 13:47             ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2014-06-04 13:47               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-08 17:26               ` Apologies - WAS: " Tanstaafl
2014-06-08 20:15                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-04 15:51             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-06-03 20:06         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-04 22:14           ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2014-06-04 22:27             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  5:23               ` Mick
2014-06-05  7:25                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05  9:03                   ` Mick
2014-06-05  9:08                     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 10:15                       ` Mick
2014-06-05 10:47                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-05 11:26                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-06-05 12:58                     ` Mick
2014-06-05 23:15                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-06  5:46                         ` Mick
2014-06-06 11:18                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-06 19:13                             ` Mick
2014-06-06 19:31                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-03 15:11   ` [gentoo-user] " Silvio Siefke
2014-06-09 15:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-09 16:18       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-06-09 18:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-06-10 20:01           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-06-09 16:21       ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-06-03 16:28   ` Alan McKinnon

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