From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD071381FA for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 23:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD59AE0932; Tue, 6 May 2014 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 800C3E08D9 for ; Tue, 6 May 2014 23:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marcec ([77.22.138.176]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LrvWY-1Wq7Kf00C6-013fXl for ; Wed, 07 May 2014 01:30:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 01:30:52 +0200 From: Marc Joliet To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: planned btrfs conversion: questions Message-ID: <20140507013052.196afa5e@marcec> In-Reply-To: References: <20140506121832.678ae781@marcec> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/lOfseMN5PilVaaJj9IY7v7o"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:NNaDbfFlDfC7dYwh2IYmsf9w/FqEPsRmKWNZOwgXZcMI4bLBjyz BTgdEYWzsuTvtH8ioBdo5l2CKgeaCB+LU73y8DWmsg2shDvi6b0ON4UoucTxqzY2n9kL4Zr UKWw9hLErSFrI4wsBKtyoAGMvyZfjuY+uaQFxdNE8bhbxsm1xIyDP958GyLRh1YDVLJKSJY e+QXhYjdqJ4Qu3LpX170Q== X-Archives-Salt: 2f04f7e3-d3ea-49f8-afae-a9abe4e0e7c1 X-Archives-Hash: b08dcd29c70e99008c39c4aca2d8dca1 --Sig_/lOfseMN5PilVaaJj9IY7v7o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (FYI: your off-list forward of this email arrived at about the same time as this one (at about 22:20 CET), strangely enough.) Am Tue, 6 May 2014 18:13:07 +0000 (UTC) schrieb James : > Marc Joliet gmx.de> writes: >=20 >=20 > > I've become increasingly motivated to convert to btrfs. From what=20 > > I've seen, it has become increasingly stable; enough so that it is=20 > > apparently supposed to > become the default FS on OpenSuse in 13.2. >=20 > > I am motivated. > > Greetings and thanks in advance for any help given >=20 >=20 > Good news Marc, >=20 > Last December I was on the BTRFS train. The docs team was totally > in agreement with my (your ?) enthusiasmn for all things BTRFS; including > but not limited to the development of documentation of how to install, fr= om > scratch, a complete Gentoo system, centric around BTRFS. The goal was for= a > group to develop documentation on the the gentoo wiki for this adventure. That would be neat :) . I found it really annoying having to piece lots of = the details together myself. I'm kind of in the middle of a Masters thesis here= ... Although I admit this sort of activity satisfies my inner Linux geek ;-) (there's a reason I like Gentoo, after all). And it will hopefully be satia= ted for a while now after setting up automated backups, migrating / to an SSD a= long with switching to grub2 (which I already use on my borrowed work/uni laptop= ) in the process, *and* migrating an mdraid + LVM setup to btrfs -- all within a= bout one week :) . > Unfortunately, as a single parent, entrepreneur, and handyman living in a= =20 > fixer_upper, my free time is rather scant these months of 2014..... > After some seriously needed projects are closed out, I'll have much > more time; hopefully in some weeks rather than months. My goals was to > clearly delineate possible explicit installation syntax for the smoother > integration (mastery?) of grub2, (u)EFI and BTRFS into a new gentoo > installation. >=20 >=20 > So if you don't mind, I'd like to parse out good ideas (from your effort= s) > and start this doc on the Gentoo wiki, based in part on your conversion > adventures. I would not even be upset, if some other, younger, > sharper mind wanted to develop a gentoo-wiki doc, based on your adventure= s. > Also, I'm hoping others are keenly inspired to contribute to your efforts > and some experimental installation docs on the gentoo wiki. This is the > gentoo community's chance to influence future gentoo installation docs, = in > a non threatening manor. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This one looks pretty non-threatening to me ;-) : https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9usBSoPnUWo/TaMmrclJngI/AAAAAAAAAD4/8Xqx67g6U34/= s1600/DSC06646.JPG > BTRFS is on the fast track in many linux distros, > as well as cloud/super computers architecture and embedded 64bit arches=20 > as the main file system of choice. That sounds perfectly fine to me (the parsing out good ideas from this thre= ad, I mean, but btrfs being on the fast track is also good :) ). > I've been espousing (as have many others) for a long time on the > convergences of embedded linux and full_bloat linix for some time. Here is > one gentoo_distro where the author experiments with many of the issues > related to convergence. There is even some suggestions on using BTRFS on > gentoo found here. [1]=20 [...] > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hardened_uClibc/Lilblue That looks interesting, albeit outside my (current) realm of interest. I can imagine playing with that sort of thing in the future (1+ years), though. Greetings, --=20 Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup --Sig_/lOfseMN5PilVaaJj9IY7v7o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTaXCxAAoJEL/Q5oYsiHj0CnAP/iwj+bT3CumL3BpMXxVwfe6s yDdugQO7szsBtcfXU0xgLzJZhTwJGrCZhNWEa5ELlcpWxvgz9wc/r8Eyt92MomlN g7OxaVomQQHZdVCSGxYUm6YDhnvTb/RKBU03YL0UBx8u4hXMtVi0k7G97b9w2ZZX df9p6IJCrPIySqgDqie1r8wn0lm2YaZ4xlAUMk/57Z0nCy08fN6mErJHztSj8mWM TEXuC3+JXzd4jXIM/qJFj2TZYGJcITDdYq+yezTK3ObxR4VNBZXGI+f3NS8NALho p3qjxwSAML0qhyfCSeT1AxKc8G2mJ2QOncDFtLJf8AVVdPwhJJxzltY40Co7J4Mn V/sPzbNA6ET8wIw7nHA5XwAUXTr0TIQmIxfFNMg3tFWKIF2HDk3Hm6Lh2X8mpQvh YWjNFKFAc7Nldw9epwdc6IsVwLavXLLiPH9OLo5fz85On4t+dvJ097ReOmXNun5U +IU5fh5iQxN+ZSy6VaVTazFMCuzv2I/sJjoY52C4dRzrhRTE97NB8TMFWTy4DiAh o+WzlxOGCAXqRY0KCphDfUCgkIvaygIQbt/gm9rD6V/Ne6OA9t8RapIMeCq5BOBZ KUJm2QasKzgCSMrjKEr0X6eLxo9lhBicty3GclvERF0iDfjZMRpvPutonfyHFdX/ z3EIq5DtxBvaX8K+l/AX =2K2d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/lOfseMN5PilVaaJj9IY7v7o--