From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DC31391DB for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 056FFE0B26; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be (andre.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7804E0A81 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([94.226.55.127]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id gc5z1n00A2khLEN01c5zeb; Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:05:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 13:05:44 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Message-ID: <20140322130544.337b5b01@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <532D674D.1020007@gmail.com> References: <53075C77.5040505@libertytrek.org> <530767B0.6000607@libertytrek.org> <20140320211402.48a597f9@gentoo.org> <532B5CBE.8010105@libertytrek.org> <20140321121328.23425250@gentoo.org> <20140321122709.4219538d@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20140321134902.6eaba663@gentoo.org> <20140321142948.59ce3f62@gentoo.org> <20140321215707.GA16478@waltdnes.org> <532CBE8F.7080506@gmail.com> <20140322004640.7d57eff6@gentoo.org> <532D674D.1020007@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0cbebf8b-1da2-4361-a871-c5eb95eab5f6 X-Archives-Hash: cd823a288f602c68f6a6fb15c0f08b98 On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:34:53 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > I disagree. Can we agree to disagree? > Your default position on things seems to be to favour the theoretical > position over the reality. I'm the opposite, being a sysadmin and not > a developer I'm a realist and not a theoretician. I work with the way > things are and really only look at the theory when stuff is proven > broken. That I want my time to be spent useful is reality, not just theory; until you can show me the invisible subscription state as well as the Reply-To mungling are features, I keep my mailer fixed to unbreak that. > What is currently happening is you are sending mails directly > addressed to me so they do not get filtered and end up cluttering my > already full inbox. That is because you address me about this matter; if you weren't, I wouldn't have sent you a single mail. Or perhaps one in a hundred days; I consider the meta discussion brought up here to be more cluttering than that uncertain single mail. > You are breaking my filters. Why do you filters allow list messages in your inbox? > I do want you to fix your mailer so that you stop inconveniencing me. > And I would *really* prefer not to have to tweak my filters to > accommodate you. I'd rather you do that heavy lifting (on account of > you causing it). That list messages land in your inbox is caused by your filter and mail client; as you can see per the example procmail rule, as well as my mail client, neither of both do that here. > Do you see what I'm getting at? No; I don't see why I should stop following the mailing list etiquette, start relying on possibly wasting time as well as break what is fixed. But yes; for convenience, I've dropped you from CC. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D