From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0721391DB for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFF48E0D67; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from michel.telenet-ops.be (michel.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.88]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A55E0D59 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([94.226.55.127]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id gDW01n00J2khLEN06DW09Y; Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:30:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:29:48 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: poisonbl@gmail.com Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Message-ID: <20140321142948.59ce3f62@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> <5304A5DE.4050905@libertytrek.org> <5305FACC.8080705@libertytrek.org> <53075C77.5040505@libertytrek.org> <530767B0.6000607@libertytrek.org> <20140320211402.48a597f9@gentoo.org> <532B5CBE.8010105@libertytrek.org> <20140321121328.23425250@gentoo.org> <20140321122709.4219538d@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <20140321134902.6eaba663@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 75df73e9-0850-460c-8ae7-bd4085697f32 X-Archives-Hash: 9b0667b78b4265c2e6348f8d2df0797c On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:13:27 -0400 "Poison BL." wrote: > fighting on the topic of 'proper use of mailing lists' when you're > standing in stark contrast to the configuration of the mailing list > you're using to do it, Which fight? It is a short notice as to why it is being done, as well as what can be done to make a change. Convincing individually isn't. > and in the process, telling everyone (many of which have been around > here helping other users for many, many, years) that they're wrong > for using the list they've been using in the manner they've been > using it... Words are being turned around here, I've never said someone is wrong; however, I provided filtering as an option to them to consider. > when I see your name appear the first time as long ago as > last Dec., is rather on the arrogant side at the least (I'm not > certain if you've been around -dev or another longer, as I don't > believe I'm subscribed on that one). There are more mailing lists and communication mediums; the reason I've not replied much in this one since last year, is because I've let this inbox grow to ~1000 unread mails or so which I'm progressing now. > If you're really hellbent on getting the configuration of the list > changed, feel free to take it up with the person who configures the > list, rather than approaching it by being condescending to the people > who consistently use it. That's for those that have a problem with it to do; as well a getting it confirmed that a certain way of responding is required, there's been nothing said about it when mails of mine went out to persons from the infrastructure team on the gentoo-dev ML and neither by other devs. Developers recommend each other to use a rule, and everyone uses it; it might be a side effect of procmail being available on our dev SSH, but in any case it works out well for every developer, see this link: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Procmail "The mailing list etiquette requires people to CC all the people involved in a particular thread in replies to the mailing list, in case any of them is not subscribed." -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D