From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8241391DB for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48035E0B8D; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B3AE0B71 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([94.226.55.127]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id fvtT1n0022khLEN01vtT3l; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:53:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:53:16 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: thegeezer@thegeezer.net Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Message-ID: <20140320205316.6d1e8578@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53078DF7.30603@thegeezer.net> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> <5304A5DE.4050905@libertytrek.org> <5305FACC.8080705@libertytrek.org> <530646EA.4020300@libertytrek.org> <5306603C.1040602@libertytrek.org> <53078DF7.30603@thegeezer.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d447d534-3b02-4a20-b742-4920ef073af3 X-Archives-Hash: 389415553f91d75011d5821f467426eb On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:33:43 +0000 thegeezer wrote: > Personally i'm most likely to stay with openRC, because the switch is > non-trivial and have no faith in the xinetd-style socket arbitrator. It should be trivial, it is here. > but would eselect be able to script the following: > .. new kernel coptions Most of which you have already; beyond that, it's some minor functionality that doesn't stop the switch itself from working afaik. Only needs to be done once, not every time. > .. new grub2 command line A new entry with init=/usr/lib/systemd/system suffices and doesn't need to be switchable; unless you want one entry and switch at runtime, alternatively it is possible to emerge sys-apps/systemd-sysv-utils, or simply change the symlink of /sbin/init and similar files yourself. > .. install dbus (use=-systemd) _then_ systemd Only needs to be done once, not every time. > .. would be nice to use an import for localed and hostnamed and > timedated .. importing openrc services and runlevels to targets Would be nice to have. Only needs to be done once, not every time. > .. pamd logind entires Only needs to be done once, not every time. > .. syslogd changes to accomodate systemd Is this necessary? I don't remember doing this. > .. setting systemd to log to syslog to make transitions smoother (as > logs are lost on reboot by default) If this were to be done, this could be done in the systemd package. Out of all what is mentioned; you either need two GRUB entries or a single symlink that eselect controls, other than that there's nothing here to be made as part of eselect. Some of these things already are made the way they are by default, other things can happen as part of emerging a package; the other first install things are documented. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D