From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9816A138E20 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E91DFE0C90; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D79E0C38 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (shooty.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 284AB23AAF for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 09:02:26 +0000 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Message-ID: <20140219090226.1609dedd@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <5300DD51.5060207@libertytrek.org> <53010A8E.2050909@googlemail.com> <53012691.6040503@googlemail.com> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> <5304576E.4000704@sporkbox.us> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3-24-g0f01f3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/of_JIkZNvVMgx8o+yUcjBDz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ca627048-d62a-4f3b-8435-afeaa1904e8b X-Archives-Hash: ee67c62067031a1df4ed50599584a985 --Sig_/of_JIkZNvVMgx8o+yUcjBDz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 01:04:14 -0600, Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> Or to create a non-systemd profile :) =20 > For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as > the default. Quite the opposite, to have a separate systemd profile would mean that systemd was not the default, otherwise it would be in the default profile. Not that defaults really matter with Gentoo, you have a systemd profile and an openrc profile, who gives a toss which is default when you have a simple to make choice? > Gentoo is one of the last bastions of choice available to > GNU/Linux users and it would create a complete shitstorm if systemd were > pushed on Gentoo's users. How is putting systemd setting in a profile that a user has to consciously choose to use forcing anything on anyone? Profiles are the essence of choice but it appears you only want the choices you approve of to be available. --=20 Neil Bothwick You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today. --Sig_/of_JIkZNvVMgx8o+yUcjBDz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlMEcyYACgkQum4al0N1GQOziQCgrNyKxhlbxUjepmLf+WgtBsS4 UbwAniTRTBMNChNVKg/LPgtV0Inl+CZ8 =vnyN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/of_JIkZNvVMgx8o+yUcjBDz--