From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21246138BF3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BCC0E0AA8; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com (mail-la0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4772BE09B2 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id c6so11713983lan.10 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; bh=xlqKE4W5yTI8RgPmJCx3gXkt2LTWyNGMZpy/xYCiBHA=; b=OGZkaCTKq/oggObteWiU9/XT1BN7FYMxhYRLsoLz1i3qsGQts7nOlL1afh0lfDI3dR KhjMVITmrqwP0eilKCY3aaVE/IfYFCNwOrxufNpTmuxRQ/zlgTpMl6BsLjLr8jwgO0qk tNxcbU4q1yCdJD7Dpg/9GsN6lWxCovZVFRGv60VjHmuM9HMrvBQkEnxYZiYgFCFq1R3z EZg+k8sHUsA7rChq3VQjeSfUsWZ5tHBFLZVBcV9EZqKRKukfrgx/Z10hszUiPDa8+b2g L9+Eas9GfwpKmbl0gM0tot12UH2qAHBO7zr+uh5XNN5FLQqa68cefd0Io8hsPRq28vcJ ODEQ== X-Received: by 10.152.28.200 with SMTP id d8mr61231lah.59.1392668280511; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([198.46.152.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jl8sm20263153lbc.16.2014.02.17.12.17.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:17:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 00:17:40 +0400 From: Andrew Savchenko To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Tanstaafl Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie Message-Id: <20140218001740.74669c2cbf624eceb237b7cb@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53026881.6090101@libertytrek.org> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <52FF9D58.3000608@libertytrek.org> <201402152023.10543.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <5300DD51.5060207@libertytrek.org> <53010A8E.2050909@googlemail.com> <53012691.6040503@googlemail.com> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <53026881.6090101@libertytrek.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__18_Feb_2014_00_17_40_+0400_3tKNUhdJqPbc3er." X-Archives-Salt: df8d4499-cb0a-4541-b376-a1b4b6466182 X-Archives-Hash: 5637da8f8f2886fc7291b08f66f1ddc8 --Signature=_Tue__18_Feb_2014_00_17_40_+0400_3tKNUhdJqPbc3er. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:52:33 -0500 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at > > all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special > > converter daemon will be needed to enable dbus to talk to kdbus. The > > whole kdbus technology is very questionable itself (and was > > forcefully pushed by RH devs), anyway it is possible to disable this > > stuff in kernel and guess what will be done on my systems. >=20 > Forcefully? Are you saying that *anyone* can *force* Linus to put=20 > something into the kernel? OK, my choice of words was not appropriate. I mean that not every kernel dev is happy that kdbus is in the kernel now. > I'd also really, *really* like to hear a *recent* opinion from Linus on=20 > systemd... Judging from his previous opinions this one is unlikely to be systemd- friendly. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko --Signature=_Tue__18_Feb_2014_00_17_40_+0400_3tKNUhdJqPbc3er. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTAm5yAAoJEFZZU7lTcnVsOA0P/ih+b0yqEzzUnRYZopxjxmfL d1FrMMf/ZRLG+uVCwOrkcBE0AYX94npMd+ql4UsmvyTKd0FgQr2P+RVKWl1SZr1k r1as2m15NiB17rkPfjGfy/8IQPQyr3QTK2OLycTREyCD4efzahLaeW06KiPbmZO5 XmLbOR0smT/vU5h2VK5qjCZPXClG7LStmZr5QjOe81oPlJUCQSDIE2Q+s5qJb1LC vWBFuPmANia2258IHe/7sgM908NbIhlUOEH7bbqw5nW7PQfLW4Ea5QBceb4gmrvL cudUegVSaiqCQiiLOccpKxKZbmfQMeaWKos4VLraOZlPZ5m9vssh5bV0zRfaUXCb vLc7Fijx8fr/6hRBvNf02bMgFj/SGjp7fShkpJmrA5VAJ27HWXgJASGjMcgXLZ5J YUK41Xi8WAe84E6GOdsl+SckwKz5dlczcLDU0OjtV/RMDnEPPm2+XXr5yovGiNmn bQYyGSj1hkxwLsOtu0oirkRi5W5xN9U2XF2/Ujn3S45o6T5TmvMvRNpkj702k9ew zng7CTp+rmdp16dkl54FuJm25xEREjUwXdoikBMBozjY3OlT09PGlFmkSaHcZAy+ Pz5pjsF9FTzBYtPOHoYumL/bJVAtE9QiiPxB5q5uDUYqt3jJ/h4XiNcT4JewjdtK ssfTdQ+ecCB7IR6Mp1/l =G5S4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__18_Feb_2014_00_17_40_+0400_3tKNUhdJqPbc3er.--