[gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[Joseph]

I have in make.conf "USE: ... -systemd"
But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed "udev" which conflicts with systemd.

Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge "systemd".  I'm not planning on switching to systemd after recent experience.  So I was planning on avoiding it but I don't know 
if I can.

emerge -1avq gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
 * Last emerge --sync was 45d 2h 15m 32s ago.
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2  USE="filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma 
-python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" 
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 
[uninstall    ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3 
[blocks b     ] >=sys-apps/systemd-197 (">=sys-apps/systemd-197" is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3)
[blocks b     ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname ("sys-auth/nss-myhostname" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
[uninstall    ] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1  USE="-systemd" 
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1  USE="colord cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force) (-packagekit) {-test}" 
INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 
[blocks B     ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
[blocks B     ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking sys-fs/udev-208, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-208-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    sys-apps/systemd required by (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
    
>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?] 
(>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod]) required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed)
    >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    sys-fs/udev required by @selected


-- 
Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have in make.conf "USE: ... -systemd"
> But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
> so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed "udev"
> which conflicts with systemd.
>
> Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge "systemd".  I'm not planning on
> switching to systemd after recent experience.  So I was planning on avoiding
> it but I don't know if I can.
>
> emerge -1avq gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
> * Last emerge --sync was 45d 2h 15m 32s ago.
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2  USE="filecaps firmware-loader gudev
> introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt
> -http -lzma -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr"
> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" [ebuild  N    ]
> sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2 [uninstall    ]
> sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3 [blocks b     ] >=sys-apps/systemd-197
> (">=sys-apps/systemd-197" is blocking sys-auth/nss-myhostname-0.3)
> [blocks b     ] sys-auth/nss-myhostname ("sys-auth/nss-myhostname" is
> blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
> [uninstall    ] app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1  USE="-systemd" [ebuild   R
> ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1  USE="colord cups i18n policykit
> short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force) (-packagekit) {-test}"
> INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" [blocks B     ] sys-fs/udev ("sys-fs/udev" is
> blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2)
> [blocks B     ] sys-apps/systemd ("sys-apps/systemd" is blocking
> sys-fs/udev-208, app-admin/openrc-settingsd-1.0.1)
>
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
>  (sys-apps/systemd-208-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
>    sys-apps/systemd required by
> (gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>
>>
>>
>> =sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,gudev?,introspection?,kmod?,selinux?,static-libs(-)?]
>
> (>=sys-apps/systemd-208:0/1[abi_x86_32(-),gudev,introspection,kmod])
> required by (virtual/udev-208::gentoo, installed)
>    >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
> (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>
>  (sys-fs/udev-208::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
>    sys-fs/udev required by @selected

You need to specify the openrc-force USE flag for
gnome-settings-daemon. Be aware that this is not really supported, you
will have reduced functionality, and somethings will probably fail.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[Greg Woodbury]

On 02/06/2014 01:49 PM, Joseph wrote:
> I have in make.conf "USE: ... -systemd"
> But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
> so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed "udev"
> which conflicts with systemd.

How about using XFCE?  I think the last time I installed it it did not
force use of systemd; it also can use many GNOME tools and apps if you
really need GNOME.

I personally got tired of GNOME and its toomany/toomajor change policies
and went to KDE (just like Linus Torvalds.)  In KDE there is a slightly
different method of configuring things that may take a bit of getting
used to.

I thought there was a MATE overlay but I can't easily find it right now.

-- 
G. Wolfe Woodbury
Gentoo KDE user
redwolfe@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Greg Woodbury <redwolfe@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
> I personally got tired of GNOME and its toomany/toomajor change policies
> and went to KDE (just like Linus Torvalds.)

Not that it matters for anything, but Linus uses GNOME [1] (unless he
changed again since last June).

Regards.

[1] http://www.zdnet.com/linus-torvalds-switches-back-to-gnome-3-x-desktop-7000012083/
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking "-systemd"

[Andrew Savchenko]

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Hi,

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 11:49:41 -0700 Joseph wrote:
> I have in make.conf "USE: ... -systemd"
> But gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon wants to pull in systemd-208
> so I need to emerge sys-apps/systemd-208-r2 and I have installed "udev" which conflicts with systemd.
> 
> Do I need to unmerge udev and emerge "systemd".  I'm not planning on switching to systemd after recent experience.  So I was planning on avoiding it but I don't know 
> if I can.

You can add openrc-force US flag to your make.conf. This way you will
drop systemd dependency, though you may loose some run-time
functionality of gnome.

Other alternative is to add sys-apps/systemd to package.provided,
though the effect will be the same as above.

And you may switch to some other DE/WM of course.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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