From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2631380DC for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A02FEE0A7F; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail144c7.megamailservers.com (mail129c7-2520.megamailservers.com [69.49.98.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EE9FE09B4 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:25:53 +0000 (UTC) X-POP-User: admin.sys-concept.com Received: from syscon7.localdomain (S01060050da7ae68c.ed.shawcable.net [68.149.90.13]) by mail144c7.megamailservers.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id s151PnuX031152 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:25:52 -0500 Received: by syscon7.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C06C20065B; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 18:26:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 18:26:16 -0700 From: Joseph To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev Message-ID: <20140205012616.GA2412@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> References: <20140204195807.GG6850@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> <20140205002426.GH6850@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.1 cv=KZvr72oD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=C3ZDv51cNVt4vJz/79I2xQ==:117 a=C3ZDv51cNVt4vJz/79I2xQ==:17 a=SDcUNfBxAAAA:8 a=BDKbP5mgAAAA:8 a=LcaDllckn3IA:10 a=7EPiu1ro49sA:10 a=nDghuxUhq_wA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=vV7DLfZZM64A:10 a=e5mUnYsNAAAA:8 a=hyLNgIJpdF6_pSz7ticA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.52F19320.00FD,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-Archives-Salt: d4de0763-4f8e-434a-b16f-61da63dd07e6 X-Archives-Hash: ac66a6e860b79fddf1bc9b6b0fd36fba On 02/04/14 18:38, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Joseph wrote: >> On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph wrote: >>>> >>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"? >>>> >>>> I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB >>>> sick >>>> (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission. >>>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all incoming >>>> faxes and now these emails are empty. >>>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-( >>> >>> >>> If I'm not mistaken, systemd/udev doesn't mount removable devices by >>> default, it just notifies the system about new volume and creates >>> links under /dev/disk. In GNOME 3 udisks is the one doing the actual >>> mounting (AFAIU); with GNOME 2 it was gnome-volume-manager, etc. >>> >>> What DE do you use? Are you using something like pmount? >>> >>> Regards. >>> -- >>> Canek Peláez Valdés >>> Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación >>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México >> >> >> I'm using XFCE It all started to happen after I switched to systemd. So >> maybe on the weekend I'll try to switch one of the machine back to udev. >> I think all I need is to unmerge "systemd" and emerge "udev" without >> rebooting. > >As others have said, udev *IS* systemd. It's the same code and >configuration [1]. > >And if you don't reboot after uninstalling systemd (while having >booted with it), I don't think your system will stay stable for much >longer. > >I see that thunar depends on gvfs, which can use udisks or >gnome-disk-utility. Which one do you have? What does portage it says >when you do: > >emerge -pv gnome-base/gvfs > >If you have the gdu USE flag enabled, I recommend switching to udisks. >It's possible that it will fix everything, but I have never used Xfce, >so I'm not certain. > >Regards. > >[1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev I have: gnome-base/gvf with "gdu" flag disabled. and sys-fs/udisks Installed versions: 2.1.0(2)(02:33:06 PM 12/28/2013)(gptfdisk introspection -cryptsetup -debug -selinux -systemd) so it seems I have them both: gvfs and udisks. Maybe I should enabled "systemd" flag in udisks since I"m using it already. -- Joseph