From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5182E138A1F for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA8ADE0DEA; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3385E0DE2 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id uo5so5094350pbc.41 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:43:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=2gq2zTHABC9XP+Iz7y1ing7i4hqgRixRFZzfJNJZC3w=; b=a+AEIoQaOnmufHluGyoZ+excyaqq+FZ7eIkWeBl7N9A0VvybrD1zvyhpn1rEmRlEAV nd8xIPj9wx5lo8doA+sj4sN4RZd38UZlgRsjaRb+YksC6PppZy06ddSJZlifSpVPmWIG 6V8cvfPvWTBRVmjn3GXbwqIXYan8YNkk48v9i03wRe0Zq2BkUYA9dQmc0ktpIukiUxM6 qGLH4thBGsgx+uQtKOuoOXJa7dx6jHLmTwMzlVkDCNjlhNoP/WifvNSMDym3FLujx0r4 8iAHjwUdXQqVogVpJjBcdEICvOo+fjm93+DKDKZQ4teOg86f2vsI5dVfW2OdX4JxX5Md p81g== X-Received: by 10.68.24.193 with SMTP id w1mr26691877pbf.78.1390769031780; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from badass.gateway.2wire.net (adsl-69-108-25-110.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net. [69.108.25.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jp3sm24936481pbc.36.2014.01.26.12.43.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:43:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:44:19 -0800 From: ny6p01@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably Message-ID: <20140126204419.GA26880@badass.gateway.2wire.net> References: <20140126162426.7a6d1f30@falcon.eroen.eu> <52E54920.5010207@gmail.com> <52E54E34.7080709@gentoo.org> <52E5543B.4070808@gmail.com> <52E556F0.3040908@gentoo.org> <52E56060.9070407@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52E56060.9070407@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: d2fcab5c-f9db-4851-80f7-d724fd698142 X-Archives-Hash: e575cd4c7b2647c841a1f7153a2ce53c --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 09:22:08PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I agree with some points and not so much on others. >=20 > Gentoo has always targeted itself at a select bunch of users - those > with large amounts of clue who have tried and failed to get binary > distros to do what they want but can't see a good reason to do the LFS > thing. This is a VERY specific market and people who truly need Gentoo > already know what it will take to drive it. Thank $DEITY the ricer crowd > that were infesting the place 2004-ish have long since moved on and > taken their confirmation bias with them. >=20 > Those who want a shiny Linux that works out the box and can be admined > even on hangover days have Ubuntu and RHEL. So when people you talk to > about Gentoo then reject it, don't take it personal, they are not > usually rejecting the distro. What they are *really* saying more often > than not is that Gentoo solves a problem they do not have, and they > don't feel like investigating a complex solution they have no use for. > That's been my experience in this area. >=20 > People who need Gentoo and understand what it takes to build from source > usually find the idea of portage very attractive indeed. They might have > issue with the implementation of portage, but folks will put up with a > lot of quirks to get what Gentoo is actually selling. >=20 Just my $.02: I don't fit into the category of those who 'need' Gentoo. I simply find it the most coherent distro out there. It doesn't hurt that the webspace is filled with people like yourself who have hands on knowledge about how to do stuff, and are willing to share it with others minus the 'tude' you see elsewhere.=20 Also, the documentation is the very highest quality. 90% of the time all I need is a quick trip to the Gentoo Manual or Wiki to resolve something that is beyond my paygrade. It's been like 4 years since I started with Gentoo, and every day I am grateful for this fabulous disto and the folks who understand it better than I! :) --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLlc6MACgkQ2dDpgi2NkbluiwCeJnQ5/OF2RerbZL6cqSiX8Qki GtoAoOnWCnzUtMTvnyItawRp7T5GaTSk =4Spe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM--