[gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[Philip Webb]

I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
how do I find out whether that is the case ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[Dale]

Philip Webb wrote:
> I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
> It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
> I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
> how do I find out whether that is the case ?
>

It seems hplip supports it.  Is this your printer?

http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_2510_series.html 


I have yet to use one of those things on a Linux box.  My printer is a
separate device from my scanner.  Maybe that link will help you tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[gottlieb]

On Tue, Dec 24 2013, Philip Webb wrote:

> I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
> It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
> I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
> how do I find out whether that is the case ?

Assuming you use hplip, did you sent the scan use flag?

/etc/portage/package.use/hplip

# Let HP printers use network
# Let HP all-in-one's scan and fax

net-print/hplip		fax scanner snmp

Re: [gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[Philip Webb]

131224 gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 24 2013, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
>> It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
>> I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
>> how do I find out whether that is the case ?
> Assuming you use hplip, did you sent the scan use flag?

Yes :

root:505 ~> eix hplip
[I] net-print/hplip
     Available versions:  3.12.10a 3.13.9 ~3.13.11-r1 {X doc fax +hpcups hpijs kde libnotify -libusb0 minimal parport policykit qt4 scanner snmp static-ppds PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_6 python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_6 python2_7"}
     Installed versions:  3.13.9([2013-12-14 00:22:37])(X hpijs kde qt4 scanner -doc -fax -hpcups -libnotify -libusb0 -minimal -parport -policykit -snmp -static-ppds PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6")

root:506 ~> emerge -pv hplip
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild   R    ] net-print/hplip-3.13.9  USE="X -doc -fax -hpcups hpijs kde -libnotify -libusb0 -minimal -parport -policykit qt4 scanner -snmp -static-ppds" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="-python2_6 python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="-python2_6 python2_7"

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find whether scanner supported

[Philip Webb]

131224 Dale wrote:
> Philip Webb wrote:
>> I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
>> It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
>> I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
>> how do I find out whether that is the case ?
> It seems hplip supports it.  Is this your printer?
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_2510_series.html 

Yes.  Thanks for this link, which seems to lead to the answer.

It says it scans, but "see Note 3", which refers onwards to Note 9 ,
which says that there mb a different API called 'digital sending'
& refers to Node 302 , which says some multifunction products (MFPs)
don't support SANE, but scan directly to a shared directory,
which you have to set up (Node 334).  The MFP then accesses the directory
via a network, which you have to set up as well for the MFP.

That suggests there's no Sane backend & that there's no Xsane fine-tuning,
while you have to jump thro' many hoops to scan at all.
If that is correct, I'll stick to my Epson, which works well enough.

Does anyone have any further comments or suggestions ?

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[gentoo-user] Re: scanner supported

[James]

Philip Webb <purslow <at> ca.inter.net> writes:


> > Philip Webb wrote:
> >> I recently bought an HP 2510 printer-copier-scanner.
> >> It prints & copies, but Xsane can't find it as a scanner.
> >> I suspect the problem is that Sane-backends doesn't support it :
> >> how do I find out whether that is the case ?

Sane, hplip and cups, sometimes work together well and sometimes
don't even thou devices may be "supported". Testing is the answer.

It stubborn cases, I've found it easier to take a singular device,
and set it up as if it were multiple devices. For example I had
one hp printer that when swithcing between color and bw the software
(driver, api?) would get confused and hang the software (driver).
So I just set it up as 2 different printers, one bw and one color.
Easy, and no issues.

> Does anyone have any further comments or suggestions ?

Using the internal functions, such as settting the IP address, wireless,
routes, dns, folders etc etc on a printer is a security concern that needs
vetting, imho. There are very few wireless interfaces that the NSA has not
forced the hardware manufactures to add "backdoors" into. Wireless sniffing,
what the NSA refers to as "signal intercept", has long been
the bread and butter of the NSA, since marconi did his thing.
Amatures can easily comprimise most wireless interfaces, so caveat emptor!.


Some only set the usb or ip address on a printer and never the wireless,
routes or other embedded OS features, as a baseline to establish security.
Note, the wireless interfaces can be activated remotely, despite what
you set, so isolate most modern printers. Adding those (printer) embedded 
OS feature-sets, makes it so a rank_amature can comprise your
devices, if you are not very careful. Unlike mrsnow, I have no
problem with the NSA; but, I think folks should be "aware" (educated?) and
make logical decisions based on their security model.


hth,
merry Christmas,
James